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Legendary 747 designer Sutter dies age 95
ATWOnline | Air Transport World ^ | August 30, 2016 | Guy Norris

Posted on 08/31/2016 9:19:54 AM PDT by EveningStar

Joe Sutter, who was dubbed “Father of the 747” by the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, has died at age 95. As the former chief engineer of Boeing’s 747, Sutter is credited with leading the birth of the first widebody airliner, which ushered in the globe-shrinking age of mass air travel.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 747; aerospace; aviation; boeing; boeing747; engineers; joesutter; obituary
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To: EveningStar

Notice anything peculiar about these aircraft? Points to anybody (else) who knows what's going on here.

21 posted on 08/31/2016 9:50:37 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

Veered off the runway?


22 posted on 08/31/2016 9:54:48 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: NorthMountain

Yes. The engine closest to the pilot is much larger than the other three? What did I win?


23 posted on 08/31/2016 9:54:59 AM PDT by Pamlico (Oppose 0bama at every opportunity)
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To: EveningStar

I had got promoted and needed to fly from DC to the West Coast in 1970.

My new boss’s secretary made reservations for me. She and my new boss said it was like sitting in a theatre and having the theatre take off.

They were right, and it was an incredible round trip flight.

Later, we relocated to the west coast, and my family flew out in a 747. My wife and kids ages 4 and 3 @ that time, and they still remember that flight in 1971.

Since, then air flights have become like cattle hauling with us as the cattle. TSA has made air travel even worse.


24 posted on 08/31/2016 9:55:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: Pamlico
The engine closest to the pilot is much larger than the other three?

True. Any idea why?

25 posted on 08/31/2016 9:56:58 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: EveningStar

one of the greats. RIP


26 posted on 08/31/2016 9:58:34 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: NorthMountain

Not being an engineer, I can only hazard a guess. Perhaps a new engine design was being tested to be used on a new plane like the 787 if not the 747 itself.


27 posted on 08/31/2016 9:59:58 AM PDT by Pamlico (Oppose 0bama at every opportunity)
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To: NorthMountain

It is a test aircraft. The larger engine is the one being tested.


28 posted on 08/31/2016 10:00:42 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: NorthMountain

It’s used to test new engines. Three proven engines and one test, so if anything goes wrong with the test, the plane and pilots are ok.


29 posted on 08/31/2016 10:01:00 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: NorthMountain
True. Any idea why?

Operational flight test of a new engine.

30 posted on 08/31/2016 10:01:30 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: NorthMountain
"True. Any idea why?"

Aircraft is a test bed. Engine test cells are fine, but you can only learn so much in them. Get it on the wing and in the air?

31 posted on 08/31/2016 10:02:25 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: NorthMountain
Easy answer: they are used as flying engine test platforms. The upper picture is a plane that belongs to GE Aero Engines, and the bottom one is a plane belonging to Rolls-Royce.

However, it should be noted that Airbus has "loaned" one of their A380 prototypes to Rolls-Royce for use as an engine testbed. The Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine used on the Airbus A350XWB airliner had its test flights mounted on one of the engine pylons of an A380 test plane.

32 posted on 08/31/2016 10:02:51 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: EveningStar

I needed that guy to make improvements in my fleet of 747’s that I’m going to own after I win the lottery and build an empire that will need them.


33 posted on 08/31/2016 10:02:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NorthMountain

Engine testing.


34 posted on 08/31/2016 10:03:23 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: EveningStar

35 posted on 08/31/2016 10:04:20 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Mears

I firmly blelieve that if we went, in the Delorean time machine, back to 1857 and met the foreman at the old Waltham plant and told him we were from 2016 he would be amazed.
If we told him that watch the worker is assembling would “STILL be working as new in 2016, can you believe it?”
I think he would be furious, exclaiming, “Why are you so surprised it’s still going...of course it is still going..it is supposed to. We don’t build junk here you know.”


36 posted on 08/31/2016 10:08:47 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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To: NorthMountain

2nd photo did not post.


37 posted on 08/31/2016 10:10:14 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: Pamlico

As best I can tell:

The top aircraft is owned by GE, and testing the GEnx engine for the 787.

The lower aircraft is owned by Rolls Royce, and is testing an engine for the 777.


38 posted on 08/31/2016 10:10:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: EveningStar
Having flown in several 727s and other smaller planes as a yute I was absolutely gobsmacked when I stepped into my first 747 in September of '71.Since then I've flown a million (plus) miles,many of them international and most of them in 747s.

Although I've flown the A380 a few times (a nice aircraft to be sure) the 747 always has been,and always *will* be,the Queen of the Skies.

39 posted on 08/31/2016 10:10:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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To: The Great RJ

Btw, computers have been used since the late 30s including for all the projects you mention.

Even assuming your statement is factually correct, one might point out that the computer is a modern form of a slide rule. It is designed/engineered/programmed by human engineers.


40 posted on 08/31/2016 10:12:51 AM PDT by indcons (Blue Lives Matter.)
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