Trump's Speeches Are Like Lincoln's Says Lincoln Scholar

American Greatness ^ | 08/21/2016 | Ken Masugi

[semperfidevildog]

Both speeches apply Trump’s overarching campaign theme of speaking on behalf of the people versus the special interests. “It is time for rule by the people, not rule by special interests” Trump tells his large audiences. Rule “by the people” is a way of returning us to consent, or recognizing the sovereignty of the people. They have to consent to the laws that govern them.

[Vendome]

Luncoln?

[Lurkinanloomin]

Trump is talking about concepts that people have forgotten.
The government is supposed to have the consent of the governed.
It doesn’t even have the respect of many, much less consent.
American citizens are sickened that their own government is more interested in helping fraudulently documented foreigners stay in this country than upholding the laws and protecting the citizens.

[georgiegirl]

But that’s impossible, we have been told by conservatives that he’s not a constitutionalist. How can this possibly be??

[Yo-Yo]

Not even close.

[x]

Maybe. When he sticks to what's on the teleprompter.

The ad lib stuff -- not so much.

[dforest]

How would any of us know? We were not around to hear every word Lincoln uttered. I doubt each word was documented for posterity.

[FroggyTheGremlim]

"They have to consent to the laws that govern them."

... and the people who govern them.

[YogicCowboy]

“But that’s impossible, we have been told by conservatives that he’s not a constitutionalist. How can this possibly be??”

Good question.

These establishment junkies did not denounce Romney for the de facto collectivism of his state-sponsored health care redistribution scheme, which provided the communist, Obama, with his blueprint for the unConstitutional (Un-)Affordable Health Care Act; in fact, they defended it on the basis of State’s Rights - Sophistry, thy name is Cuckservative! - and trivialized that it alone - a massive unRepublican Elephant in the National Living-room - rendered Romney impotent to attack Obama’s regime in any tangible way (not that a closet leftist and cowardly bully like him would have done so anyway).

Romney, according to them, was “severely conservative” - or, at worst - “moderately conservative”; they lectured, cajoled, and scolded us into voting for that crony capitalist.

Donald Trump is more genuinely, and pragmatically, conservative than Willard Romney (son of a leftist) ever was. That alone expose all the so-called purists as the unconscionable hypocrites that they truly are.

I despise them with every shred, every ounce, every erg of my conservative being.

They are not conservative about conserving the United States of America as a sovereign nation; they are only conservative about conserving their elitist network of neocons, globalists, donors, pundits, lobbyists, consultants, traders, and traitors.

[sodpoodle]

Donald Trump was motivated to run for POTUS when he realized that the crises affecting American citizens were not being resolved; illegal immigrant felons, black crime in failing cities, unemployment and the National debt.

He offered solutions for those problems; a wall, law and order, better trade deals and lower taxes.

To focus on those problems, he did not veer off to discuss the hard working illegals whose parents came here for the American dream, or the integrated population of most American citizens of all races.

Now that he has identified the problems and offered solutions he can be expected to review all data and evidence for a comprehensive approach.

Rome was not built in day - and America was not destroyed overnight. It is going to take a lot of energy and practical thinking to make America Great again.

[YogicCowboy]

Edit:

That alone exposes all the so-called purists as the unconscionable hypocrites that they truly are.

[Bellflower]

Lincoln wrote out his speeches. Trump does his own speeches with someone to help and advise a little. They are his speeches.

[katana]

Political speeches back then were recorded and published in newspapers around the country as big news and the fodder for dinner table, general store, and saloon discussions. We've got plenty of Lincoln's speeches, letters, legal briefs from his time in Springfield, from his earliest years to the day he died.

What we don't have, but which all his contemporaries commented on, are the stories and jokes he told. Maybe because, for the time, a lot of them were country style bawdy. They allude to it in all of the movies ... Henry Fonda 1939: "Well then if it's all the same to you, I'll call you Jack Cass". Today with Trump it's almost the reverse. Throughout his career before becoming a candidate Trump can probably count fewer than ten occasions when he had to deliver a carefully prepared lawyeresque speech. So trying to compare his and Lincoln's styles is pointless.

And besides, I never heard of Lincoln saying anything like "And ah tain't no ways tard" either.

[onedoug]

"The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise to meet the occasion. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we will save our country." --Lincoln

I think I've heard reflections of this in other aspects of Trump's speeches too. Which is okay, as imitation is the severest form of flattery. Just don't get too federally grabby.

[georgiegirl]

add to that bottom list talk show hosts who buy and peddle gold and who don’t want its value to slip during a booming and thriving economy.

[entropy12]

Rome was not built in day - and America was not destroyed overnight. It is going to take a lot of energy and practical thinking to make America Great again.

Excellent!

[DoughtyOne]

Quite a bit like Reagan's, but then who wants to laud Reagan?


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[Albion Wilde]

Lincoln bemoaned a national spate of lawlessness that produced lynchings and acts of brutality against various disfavored groups. This collapse of the rule of law, he argued, would ultimately lead to the rise of a tyrant and the destruction of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as our founding resources. America would thereby lose its greatness and with it “the noblest of causes—establishing and maintaining civil and religious liberty.”

These themes are at the heart of Trump’s argument about law and order and civil rights. The killings of police and violent crimes against blacks have that common root—the lack of respect for life and property and the freedom to enjoy them. That contempt is demanded by Hillary Clinton’s Progressivism and furthered by her corruption.

[Albion Wilde]

Not even close.

So, you didn't read the article?

[Yo-Yo]

Yes, I read the article. Trump’s speeches are not even close to the eloquence and complexity of Lincoln's. Even the concepts being conveyed are simply rehashes of thoughts and concepts that have been previously expressed by others.

Lincoln stands alone in original thought.