[Lower Deck]

ASW is an art. It's more than replacing the platforms, it's building up the skill sets again. That's not something done overnight.

[thoughtomator]

“organic carrier-based fixed-wing anti-submarine warfare capability”

African swallows dropping coconuts qualify?

[Scrambler Bob]

I can tell them where all the subs are.

In the ocean!

[RayChuang88]

The big problem is that the US Navy retired the Lockheed S-3 Viking fleet too early. Fortunately, most of those planes now sitting in the "boneyard" are still intact, and they could be put back into service on short notice.

[Navy Patriot]

A significant part of the problem is that submarines are so much better at remaining undetected these days.

[PAR35]

ASW capability has atrophied

Should have thought of that before ditching the Lockheed Electra in favor of the 737 as its land based ASW component. The 737 may get there more quickly and comfortably, and help make its pilots more marketable for the airlines, but it lacks the long, slow loiter.

Maybe they need to roll out some blimps again, as well.

[TexasTransplant]

Need to dust off my flight boots and see if they make a flight suit in my current size. (Still have an old helmet complete with hydraulic oil stains)

[AndyJackson]

The problem is that the US is a sea-power, by geography, temperament, heritage and industry. But we squandered all of that to sort out the Middle East, drew down our naval forces all for which we have dust and ashes in some god-forsaken desert.

[caltaxed]

P3s flew out of Moffett field in Northern California for years.

Taxpayers gave the airfield and blimp hangers to Google for nothing, other than the compensation exchanged to a corrupt politician or two somewhere.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Do you really think Obola’s administration (and the “people” he is promoting) really want to defeat a communist submarine force?

[MrBambaLaMamba]

Outsource it!
H1Bs welcome!!!

[pabianice]

1. The Navy retired its S-3 shipborne ASW aircraft.

2. ASW was tossed in the dumpster after the USSR fell in 1991. The Navy knows ASW is just as important as anti-mine warfare (AMW), but VF and VA admirals run the Navy and so it's CVNs all the way.

3. The P-8 replacement for the P-3 doesn't do low-level, in your face ASW. Low-level is how you localize and attack submarines. The Navy chose the P-8 737 variant to do ASW from 20,000 feet. Theory was that better sensors and faster on top speed would rule and, hey! Anyway, VP is now overland, over the horizon targeting, anyway.

4. ASW skills are highly perishable. When I was doing it in P-3s, we flew on average 100 hours per month doing it. Since 1991 it has been allowed to atrophy, with P-8 crews now doing perhaps 20 hours per month and half of that launching missiles over the horizon. Our ships -- and cities -- are going to get their asses kicked by Chinese SSKs and SSBNs at the next war. JMHO.

[AFreeBird]

Pull some S3s out of the boneyard until they can come up with an updated platform.