[HomerBohn]

Our central socialist government in its 'finest' hour. Then there was the Waco debacle where holes were punched into the building housing women and children, then it was set afire burning innocents alive.

Clinton's Reno sent troops in to hold Elian Gonzalez's family at gunpoint while they snatched the child to be given to Fidel Castro.

There's much, much more and events in the socialist government's hopper to degrade and punish citizens.

The government assassin, Lon Horiuchi went on to kill Branch Davidians at Waco.

America has one and the final chance to stem this evil central government and that is by electing Donald Trump president. It has been inconceivable to me that there are enough stupid citizens to elect a Hillary Clinton their (and our) president. Her election will absolutely be the worst action by a people who will end up enslaved.

[Gaffer]

Horiuchi was a Rambo scumbag IMO. It is too bad he got off scot free.

[jaydubya2]

Following an April 18, 1992 fly-over by a helicopter for the Geraldo Rivera "Now It Can Be Told" TV show, U.S. Marshal Service HQ received media reports that Weaver had fired on the helicopter.[25] That day in Idaho, a U.S. Marshals team was installing surveillance cameras overlooking the Weaver property at the time of the fly-over. The field report for April 18, 1992 filed by Marshal W. Warren Mays reported seeing a helicopter near the Weaver property, but not hearing any shots fired.[26]

Weaver then granted an interview with a newspaper reporter in which he, family and friends present denied firing on the helicopter.[27] The helicopter pilot Richard Weiss eventually gave FBI FD-302 interviews denying that Weaver fired on his helicopter.[28]

The media reports that Weaver had fired on the Rivera helicopter became part of the justification later cited by USMS Wayne "Duke" Smith and FBI HRT Commander Richard Rogers in drawing up the Ruby Ridge Rules of Engagement on August 21–22, 1992. Also, in spite of Richard Weiss's repeated denials that shots had been fired at his helicopter, U.S. Attorney Ron Howen would charge that, as Overt Act 32 of the Weaver's Conspiracy Against the Federal Government, Randy, Vicki and Harris fired two shots at the Rivera helicopter.[29]


Whoraldo escalated the situation with his lie that he was fired upon.

[txrefugee]

These attacks by the federal government forces occurred during the Clinton reign of terror, with Janet Reno carrying out these atrocities on behalf of Pres. Clinton. Mrs. Clinton was in Austin, TX plotting with then TX Gov. Ann Richards the weekend before the attack on the Branch Davidian home in Waco. The fire set by the U.S. military burned to death 82 people including over 20 children. That blood is still on the Clinton’s hands. They should NEVER be allowed the power to destroy people who disagree with them again. But the Lord assures us, “Vengeance is mine. I will repay, says the Lord.” (Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19) And so we wait………..

[I want the USA back]

Oh but they’re just Whites! No need to be outraged over this. Whites enjoy White Privilege and it’s OK to shoot them when they are not threatening anybody. The outrage is reserved for blacks shot while they are threatening cops.

[M Kehoe]

“Lon Horiuchi”

A name that will live in infamy.

5.56mm

[DesertRhino]

Bush was president then. GOP is no better than the others.

[fella]

This one really is “Bush’s fault” and one of the reasons he didn’t get reelected.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Sorry. No tears for Jew-haters.

[Billthedrill]

BFL

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[Grampa Dave]

This happened with Bill Clinton as our potus. Elect his witch, and these attacks on us will become common.

Our central socialist government in its ‘finest’ hour. Then there was the Waco debacle where holes were punched into the building housing women and children, then it was set afire burning innocents alive.

Clinton’s Reno sent troops in to hold Elian Gonzalez’s family at gunpoint while they snatched the child to be given to Fidel Castro.

There’s much, much more and events in the socialist government’s hopper to degrade and punish citizens.

The government assassin, Lon Horiuchi went on to kill Branch Davidians at Waco.

[KarlInOhio]

particularly due to the removal of imperative rules of engagement meant to protect civilians from the exact massacre that took place there.

If any adult male is observed with a weapon prior to the announcement, deadly force can and should be employed, if the shot can be taken without endangering any children.

And even those rules weren't enough for Lon Horiuchi when he shot Vicki Weaver through her head while she was holding her baby.

[JDoutrider]

Marker

[Billthedrill]

Lots more to the story than this and most of it is pretty damning to the federal government, although Weaver must shoulder at least a little of the blame for being a stubborn cuss. Don't believe me, ask him. But no excuse at all for how it escalated.

1. Weaver was entrapped by the ATF. That isn't an opinion, it's a formal jury finding.

2. The court date he was supposed to make to defend against the charge was mis-written on the letter he received, apparently by a perfectly innocent mistake on the part of the court clerk.

3. Local (Boundary County) cops actually did arrest him once for Failure To Appear, which was so bogus Weaver determined never to make himself vulnerable again.

4. The Federal Marshals were brought in after no less than 14 months of Weaver refusing to come down. Pass-off of information from the ATF guy was horribly incomplete. Weaver couldn't infiltrate the Aryan Nations because they already knew him. He argued scripture with them on a regular basis and disagreed volubly with the white supremacy part.

5. The one guy who could have cleared the thing up (in court) was the Marshal who got killed, Degan. What actually precipitated the gunfight (it wasn't much of a gunfight, actually) was Degan throwing rocks at the back yard, which was contrary to their supposedly covert camera-setting mission, which they'd just completed. The other Marshals asked him why he did that and he told them "to see what the dog will do". The dog did what Degan knew it would do, alert. That brought Sammy (13 years old) and Kevin Harris out. They actually thought they had a deer up, which is why Kevin grabbed a deer rifle. Sammy had a Ruger Mini-14.

6. My conjecture - Degan was up there to assassinate an inconvenient dog, which he did end up doing. To that end he had lugged a suppressed submachine gun along, which the other Marshals also thought somewhat strange. Problem was, Sammy shot back, turned, ran back toward the house yelling to his father. He was then shot in the arm and the back by...someone. No bullets recovered (they went right through him, he was just a little guy). Harris shot Degan, who was shooting at Sammy. One shot, chest, with a deer rifle. The armor Degan had on wouldn't stop that.

7. The FBI had not one, but eleven snipers surrounding the place, all but one of whom disregarded the outrageous rules of engagement put out by Washington. These are, after all, sworn officers of the law. The one who followed the ROE was Horiuchi, and he managed to miss both of the shots he took at around 100 yards. One got Weaver in the arm, one killed his wife in her own doorway. Holding her baby.

8. The only unwounded adult left in the place was Sarah, 16, who spent the next 11 horrible days with a rifle defending her family, feeding the kids, lying in a pool of her mother's blood.

9. The FBI negotiator insisted throughout on trying to make contact with Vicki, taunting her at one point about sharing some nice pancakes for breakfast. Vicki was, of course, dead. The effect of that stupidity on making the family surrender was pretty predictable. He later said he was "devastated" to learn the truth.

10. Randy and Kevin Harris were acquitted of all charges in a federal court, except for the one Failure to Appear charge, where the judge let Randy off with time served.

11. No formal charges or penalties were ever levied against any member of the ATF, the Federal Marshals, or the FBI. The ones the county prosecutor attempted to file against Horiuchi were quashed immediately.

The thing was an absolutely monumental cock-up and it was due to lack of professionalism and terrible communication. The Marshals allegedly wouldn't listen to the ATF guy, who tried to tell them that the Failure to Appear charge was an administrative error. The Marshals got frustrated and initiated an armed raid that got utterly out of control through their own actions and then clammed up because a 13-year-old kid was dead. The FBI was told that Weaver was a fanatical white supremacist (untrue), a PTSD Vietnam Vet (untrue) holed up in a compound with automatic weapons, mines, and booby traps (all untrue). They were told by a journalist that a Weaver had fired at a helicopter (untrue - Weaver never so much as took a shot at anyone).

It took months to dig the truth out of it and at every turn the federal government looked worse. Consequences to them? None.

For a very good and even-handed book on the topic I recommend Ruby Ridge by Jess Walter, a Spokane journalist who simply would not give up digging.

[ladyrustic]

“Lon Horiuchi”

Never forget his name. May he burn in hell.