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There Are No Successful Black Nations
Foreign Policy ^ | August 8 2016 | Chigozie Obioma

Posted on 08/12/2016 9:02:25 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34

Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity–and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.

Thus, it is no surprise that in the absence of any healthy black nation–in the midst of chaos, senseless wars, corrupted religiosity, violence, and economic collapse–African and Caribbean people leave home en masse.

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KEYWORDS: africa; blacks; nigeria
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To: Arthur McGowan
American Blacks are 80-85. Sub-Saharan Blacks are 70.

The Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study looked at black kids who had been adopted, as infants, by middle-class to upper-middle-class white families. The purpose was to study the effects of environment on IQ. The study found that, even being raised from infancy by affluent white families, and going to school in good schools, the average adult IQ of the adopted black kids was just 89.

I have not heard of any further studies done.

41 posted on 08/12/2016 9:34:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: jumpingcholla34
As a member of a yuuuuuge Black nation, I'm sad at this news. I think I'll go into my kennel and shed some more. {{{SIGH}}}


42 posted on 08/12/2016 9:36:19 AM PDT by Daffynition (*Russia, if you are listening* ..... proof the left has *NO* sense of humor.)
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To: major-pelham

Dubious at best.

I’ll see your Atlanta, and raise you Chicago and Baltimore.


43 posted on 08/12/2016 9:37:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Mr. Douglas
South Africa was a wonderfully successful nation under Dutch rule. For awhile afterwards, they seemed okay. Now, they're fading fast.

Oftentimes, when a governing authority leaves, things go along pretty well for awhile, while people who were trained by the previous government still have an impact. But as soon as those people get replaced by the locals, it rarely goes well. Some nations have the culture and temperament to self rule and recover. Others, not so much.

44 posted on 08/12/2016 9:38:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: 5th MEB

I have been looking for statistics (but they probably aren’t very good from 200 years ago) - but was told that when Dutch arrived to South Africa, it was nearly unpopulated. There were local bushmen (who still exist) but otherwise, much of the land was not settled.

Like the USA - black africans were brought (or immigrated) from elsewhere to South Africa, for work. Any truth to this?


45 posted on 08/12/2016 9:40:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Arthur McGowan
Shall we make the usual wager?


46 posted on 08/12/2016 9:41:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, it’s hard to ‘reclaim’ something that never existed in the first place.


47 posted on 08/12/2016 9:41:18 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

When the Colonial powers left their colonies starting after WW2, most the new countries of Africa and Asia and South America adopted some form of socialism/fascism for their Govts. Property ownership and Rule of Law are the hallmarks of a free and prosperous people, but this is virtually unknown throughout the world except in the Evil Western nations. We are under attack for our success. Our own leaders have deteriorated into 3rd world dictators and hate their own countrymen - Having higher IQs won’t save us if we don’t figure out how to stop the likes of Obama, Clinton, and all the traitors posing as “one of us.” The solutions are no longer political unfortunately.


48 posted on 08/12/2016 9:41:50 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: jumpingcholla34
This is from the article in Foreign Policy by Chigozie Obiama, a Nigerian writer, who is black and not popular on Stormfront as far as I know.

I also doubt he is popular on Stormfront given the amount of blame the author places on white civilizations for what he says are the current state of affairs.

49 posted on 08/12/2016 9:41:51 AM PDT by gdani
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To: jumpingcholla34

Black and not popular by demand? So why if a white man says the same thing as the author does, is a racist?


50 posted on 08/12/2016 9:42:58 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Median IQ:

Asians: 110
Whites: 100

Hope my wife doesn’t see these figures. She’s Japanese I am white. Does that mean my two boys have an average IQ of 105?


51 posted on 08/12/2016 9:43:39 AM PDT by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: PapaBear3625

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyferth_study


52 posted on 08/12/2016 9:44:36 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Leaning Right
little regard for friction between tribes

Tribal warfare is the special environmental pressure that drives increases in human intelligence while leaving other animals largely untouched. Unlike Asians/Caucasians the Africans did not participate in the long brutal war against the Neanderthals, which is possibly a primary cause of the unequal IQ.

53 posted on 08/12/2016 9:45:00 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: gdani

We were offered a retirement incentive to quit work. It was enough for my Nigerian buddy to say “I could go home and have 3 wives!”


54 posted on 08/12/2016 9:45:15 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Somebody needs to do a “What If There Were No White People” movie. In which we see a world bereft of all the things that whites have given it.


55 posted on 08/12/2016 9:45:55 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: jumpingcholla34

Aren’t we all mixed race by now? None of us are pure white or black, especially when referring to a nation.


56 posted on 08/12/2016 9:46:47 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Incorrect but I admit they are not the ones you hear about.

Well, name one. I'm trying to think of one, but can't. Maybe you can enlighten us with an example. I'm open to suggestions. And, note that the author is using the present tense. Ancient African civilizations don't count.

58 posted on 08/12/2016 9:47:48 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The Republic cannot exist as median IQ drops.

The movie IDIOCRACY[ is actually based on that premise. That has to be a concern. With ZIKA, the increase and autism, medical knowledge to keep folks across the spectrum alive, and hi-IQ people having less children (etc), there's constant downward pressure on the aptitudes needed to maintain Western civilization.

Other cultures can thrive with a different set of skills from those that led to the development and sustaining of our civilization. But they'll be very different. Looking at it from that view, that's why regime change is such a really bad idea. Most of the regimes we overthrew were what worked in those cultures.

59 posted on 08/12/2016 9:47:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: gr8eman

Because guilt works better on smarter people than facts do.


60 posted on 08/12/2016 9:48:14 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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