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The Myth of the 'Gay Conservative'
Scott Lively Ministries ^ | July 28, 2015 | Scott Lively

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude

It was with disappointment but not surprise that I read the news about the standing ovation that openly homosexual Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel received at the Republican national convention. It’s being spun by some conservatives as merely appreciation for Thiel breaking ranks with the Trump bashers of Silicon Valley, but in fact there’s a serious problem of moral compromise on the homosexual issue in the GOP and we need to face it for what it is.

Ronald Reagan was not a perfect man, but he was a great man and an outstanding leader whose presidency marked the high point of conservatism in the latter half in the 20th century. In 1983 President Reagan did two things that exemplify the battle of left and right ideologies that still define the culture war: On February 3rd of that year, in a message to the National Prayer Breakfast, he declared 1983 to be “The Year of the Bible,” and one month later in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals, he declared the Communist Soviet Union to be an “Evil Empire.” In that latter address he contrasted America’s Judeo-Christian heritage with the Atheism of the Soviets, explaining that this contrast was at the heart of the conflict between the US and USSR.

In 1980 Candidate Reagan rode a wave of populist conservatism into the White House, in defiance of the GOP establishment, which was forced to settle for getting their man George Herbert Walker “read my lips” Bush in the VP slot. They bided their time and once Reagan was termed out they went back to steering the ship of state toward the New World Order with Mr. Bush, the former CIA spymaster, at the helm.

But President Reagan had been so effective at articulating conservative values, and so courageous in pushing back against his Cultural Marxist opponents in media, academia and government, that America experienced a massive spiritual, cultural and patriotic revival during the 1980s whose influence lingers even today.

So powerful was Reagan’s impact on the GOP, that the hands of elitists Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney were publicly tied on the homosexual issue, though the GOP brass kept advancing the “gay” cause behind the scenes. And so powerful was the revival of moral values of the Reagan Revolution on the culture at large, that it’s taken more than a quarter century, millions of hours of pop-culture propaganda, the complete takeover of the US public education system, and the blatant hijacking of the federal judiciary for the Cultural Marxists to undo it.

Reagan’s power did not come from the Party, it came from his Biblical values. And his conservatism was not measured by how many feet it walked behind liberalism on the path to globalism. What he fought to “conserve” was the authentic Christian worldview of the Founding Fathers as embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He did not accept the Marxist “Tide of History” lie, but pushed boldly in the opposite direction, advancing the Kingdom of God in world affairs and reclaiming lost territory in the domestic culture war. Under Reagan, “American Exceptionalism” was real, and not just a neo-con euphemism for bullying the world.

Ronald Reagan would never have allowed Peter Thiel to use the GOP stage to legitimize homosexuality, nor would the populist conservatives of the Reagan Revolution have ever applauded it.

Reagan knew that true conservatism is absolutely incompatible with the “gay” agenda. The two are as contradictory in principle and practice as marital fidelity and adultery. Every plank of its platform rests on the foundation of the Bible, from private property, to national identity and security, to personal freedom, to law and order: Conservatism stands for the truth of God or it stands for nothing. And the truth of God is clearer on the danger of legitimizing sexual deviance, especially homosexuality, than on any other social policy. It was the Reagan-era Supreme Court that affirmed the right of states to criminalize homosexual sodomy in Bowers v Hardwick (1986) a decision vigorously defended by Reagan appointee Antonin Scalia, his closest ideological ally on the court.

Ronald Reagan reminded America that our enemy was Marxism, that the root of its evil was godlessness, and that its goal was the total elimination of Judeo-Christian civilization. To quote The Communist Manifesto of Marx and Engles directly, “Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.”

The primary tactic of Marxists is syncretism, meaning the blending of two opposing views into a compromised view that’s always one step closer to Marxist goals. It’s called the Marxist Dialectic, and was taught to Soviet schoolchildren with a little dance: “Two Steps Forward, One Step Back — Net Gain One Step.” In other words: Demand a radical leftward change of policy and then compromise with the conservatives so that you get only part of what you demanded, but still move forward toward your goal. That strategy is detailed in astonishingly forthright terms in the must-read LGBT Manifesto, “The Overhauling of Straight America.” http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.

Nowhere has this been more obvious than at Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Network. In 1996 Fox designated itself as the guardian of the conservative hen house and heir to the Reagan legacy, launching what began as a genuinely conservative news network. Over time, however, Fox became merely an arm of the GOP. As Republican elites increasingly capitulated to the Marxist “Tide of History,” especially on LGBT issues, Fox continuously adjusted its personnel and programming to reflect the compromises and make them palatable to the masses.

On behalf of the GOP establishment Fox has led the way in normalizing the myth of the “gay conservative,” and other “conservative” media outlets have followed suit, such as Breitbart with it’s openly “gay,” spotlight-hungry representative “Milo.” But like the truth of the Bible, true conservatism doesn’t “change with the times.” If it abandons its logical presuppositions, such as the resolve to protect civilization from the cancer of sexual degeneracy, then it loses all moral authority. True conservatism must agree with God that “A man must not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

President Reagan once said in a speech to his conservative supporters “Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
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It is getting alarming that even so-called conservatives fawn over "gays" when they seemingly advocate for free-market economics or gun rights. Let's not get suckered in; the gay agenda is relentless and malicious, no matter what other supposed "correct positions" they claim to hold. The vast majority of the time, this is a lie - the left, which includes homosexual "rights" advocates, is extremely monolithic in its leftist belief system, and you're very unlikely to find any area of real departure from it. "A house divided against itself...."
1 posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Most of my gay friends are not about pushing a social agenda. They just want to be left alone. This idea that all gays want the throw it in our faces is yet another lie by the left to divide us. We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on. There will never be a winning party that agrees 100% on everything because you limit the number of people you can attract. You have to take the wins you can get.

For instance on abortion, if we had been willing to compromise we could have gotten much stronger restrictions placed on it but people with an all or nothing attitude sunk that ship.


2 posted on 07/29/2016 7:27:03 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: fwdude

Agree. Thank you for posting because I, too, have been heavily troubled. Y this and the Milo thing.


3 posted on 07/29/2016 7:27:35 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: fwdude

Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.


4 posted on 07/29/2016 7:28:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: fwdude

Thiel gets no applause from me. Like applauding a burglar or a pirate of some sort..


5 posted on 07/29/2016 7:29:26 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: fwdude

So people that are actually trying to help defeat the fricking left should be rejected?

How about for every one of them you can round up some of these better Christians to get off their ass and pull their weight!

While you have a Milo putting himself out there taking the fight to these people, there are 1,000 “wholesome and biblical” folks just sitting on their butts, and shaking their fists at their screen while they pass bible quotes wondering if this is the “end times”.

If these people were doing their jobs, we would be in the position we are in now.

So to those Christians I say SUCK IT UP. You dont have the luxury of picking and choosing your allies after pissing away opportunities to keep these people out of office.


6 posted on 07/29/2016 7:33:37 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: miss marmelstein

“Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.”

Dont like him? Well then take his place and do what he is doing.

Too many people on the Christian right want to be rewarded for feeling morally superior and failing at almost everything politically.


7 posted on 07/29/2016 7:35:30 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Agreed.I don’t think “conservatives” are fawning over gays. But what I think is wrong is trying to use Reagan as a prop for this argument. Reagan was a man of his generation and I’m inclined to think as this author, “Reagan was silent on same-sex marriage, as was everyone of his generation. He, like all liberals of his time, could not have conceived of same-sex marriage, and he, like the entirety of the Democratic Party just a decade or two ago, unwaveringly supported traditional marriage.”http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/opinion/kengor-reagan-same-sex-marriage/

But leaving the issue of same sex marriage aside what was plainly evident is that Reagan was tolerant of gays despite how the left tried to portray him (aids issue etc.).


8 posted on 07/29/2016 7:41:55 AM PDT by Lent
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To: baxtelf
“We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on.”

The author of the article anticipated your comment when he wrote: “Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.”

9 posted on 07/29/2016 7:42:05 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: fwdude
By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.

It is getting alarming that even so-called conservatives fawn over "gays" when they seemingly advocate for free-market economics or gun rights. Let's not get suckered in; the gay agenda is relentless and malicious, no matter what other supposed "correct positions" they claim to hold.

Amen!!! Conservatism is retreating on almost every front because every time the Left makes a "minority" of some group of perverts the "Right" wants to start appealing to them!

10 posted on 07/29/2016 7:42:24 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: fwdude

I can’t figure out these “New Wordl Order” types...

If they want the entire world to be united, then why not uinte them with a conseervative plateform. A platform that is not only surprisingly (to them) popular, but WORKS.

It would be great if the whole world worked as well.


11 posted on 07/29/2016 7:43:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: fwdude; All

Was a time, not too long ago, when people knew it was impolite to ask how much you made, where you went to church and what you did behind closed doors with another consulting adult.


12 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:24 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: All

Homosexuality is diseased.

According to studies by major (liberal) universities:

Murder rate is 10-20 times normal. (TIMES not percent).
Suicide rate is 20 times normal.
Serious disease rate is 20 times normal.

It is destructive physical, mentally and spiritually. It is destructive to the culture. It is expensive.

The behavior should, at the very least be shamed and pushed back into the closet. Not embraced.


13 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:26 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (Three Percenter - Cruz/West)
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To: baxtelf
Most of my gay friends are not about pushing a social agenda. They just want to be left alone. This idea that all gays want the throw it in our faces is yet another lie by the left to divide us. We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on. There will never be a winning party that agrees 100% on everything because you limit the number of people you can attract. You have to take the wins you can get.

Divide "us?" So now you're including homosexuals (not "gays") in "us?" Kindly include me out of any such grouping.

For instance on abortion, if we had been willing to compromise we could have gotten much stronger restrictions placed on it but people with an all or nothing attitude sunk that ship.

[sarcasm] Oh yes. Because libertarianism and capitalism are so much more important than the Will of A-mighty G-d. [/sarcasm]

14 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:30 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: baxtelf

I’m with you, 100% and also share your experience. So, if self-righteous Christian conservatives want to disavow homosexuals in the party, then they’ll also need to both judge then disavow every other unrepentant sinner as well as atheists, Jews, agnostics, and any other non-conforming New Testament un-scriptural man made denominations like Catholics and Mormons. Yeah, just shut the doors to the church and to the party.


15 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:12 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: baxtelf

“Since Feb 9, 2016.”


16 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Agree. Thank you for posting because I, too, have been heavily troubled. Y this and the Milo thing.

Amen!

17 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:58 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: fwdude
Homosexuality and conservatism are diametrically opposed. There is no such thing as a homo conservative, just like there's no such thing as a catdog, hot-cold water, or a common sense liberal. Don't let them set the terms of the debate...if you hear someone calling someone a "gay" conservative, straighten them out on BOTH words!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!

18 posted on 07/29/2016 7:47:00 AM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.

He's a disgusting little pervert. Why would any conservative support him?

19 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:07 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: akalinin
Like applauding a burglar or a pirate of some sort..

I see what you did there. ;'}

20 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:17 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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