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Beware The Predictable Polling Onslaught to Paint the Potemkin Villageā€¦
The Last Refuge ^ | July 28, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 07/28/2016 4:36:38 PM PDT by dontreadthis

We are not, repeat NOT, going to exhaust unnecessary energy in the next 10 days to deconstruct the insufferably predictable media-agenda-polls that are looming on the near horizon.

The corporations who have a vested interest in manufacturing the Potemkin village have their collected pollsters armed with fresh paint to create the optics of a “historic” surge in polling upon the conclusion of the Democrat National Party Convention in Philadelphia.

Benjamin Franklin Half a Truth is often a Great Lie

This paint job has been planned for weeks, if not months.

You can count on a manufactured corporate-media pretense to deliver a carefully scripted narrative giving Hillary Clinton a post convention bounce around 10 to 15 points (+/- 3).

What’s coming is so intensely predictable, that if they don’t do it – we’ll actually eat a plain rice cake.

There may be a few scientific polling outcomes that are not connected to the tentacles of the media; we’ll look for those.

However, polling from: CNN/ORC (Turner), ABC (Disney), NBC (Mark Murray), Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch), Monmouth (Patrick Murray), FOX News (Daron Shaw), Reuters, CBS (David Rhodes), and PPP (Happy Liberals), are g-u–a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d to be manufactured for maximum political value. ie. Painting the Potemkin Village.

Fortunately, there’s a decent (and recent) history showing the ideological fail of their best prior efforts. Divergent outcomes including: Matt Bevin (KY), GOP Primary (FL, IN, etc), The Brexit outcome, and the Republican delegate totals etc., the list goes on.

Consequently, amid the new electoral awakening, people are looking more critically, more cynically, at the disconnect between agenda-driven media polls (corporate interests) and the factual real outcomes (people interests).

How can we be so certain the onslaught is about to take place? Good Question.

Take today, as a litmus in a predictive sense. The Pennsylvania polling from Suffolk U is bizarrely disconnected from current reality. Also today, Rasmussen says Clinton leads by 5 points amid “unaffiliated” voters. Keep in mind just last week the same Rasmussen poll had Trump leading by 20 points (44/24), with those SAME unaffiliated voters. Did unaffiliated Rasmussen voters swing 25 points in a week?… of course not. That’s silly. But that’s what they presented today. The week prior to last week it was Trump +11 (43/32) with the same voters.

Conversely, Donald J Trump did not swing 16 or 17 points in his post GOP convention bounce. Attributing such pro-Trump polling outcomes to reality is just as flawed as accepting the upcoming pro-hillary polling paint job.

Outlining the media corruption in this process is not conspiracy theory, it’s not hiding from reality, it’s not a host of other “things” or “isms” that those with vested political interests might call it. It’s just simply the natural and transparently predictable acceptance that trillions of dollars are at stake in this election, and those massively invested influences have a vested stake in a very particular and specific approach.

And we hate rice cakes.


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To: dontreadthis
Our concerned trolls will blast us 24/7 with the phoney push polls posing as real polls.

They will cry and moan how Trump has lost it, and how he should do their agenda thing to stop his boat from sinking.

When they do this, just post the following and don't comment any more on their so concerned poll posts,


21 posted on 07/29/2016 6:16:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Nothing special re words "radical Islam"!, Nation of IsIam is just "Islam." NOI/ISIS equals murder!)
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To: xzins

C. Edmund began calling names when presented with evidence. He got so nutty anti-Trump that it wouldn’t surprise me if he was banned. He certainly deserved it.


22 posted on 07/29/2016 6:23:44 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

His TDS is over at American Thinker. This was his last column there: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/time_will_vindicate_ted_cruz.html


23 posted on 07/29/2016 8:13:41 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: hotsteppa

Trump is like an ultraviolet light exposing all the, well, you know, on a whorehouse floor.


24 posted on 07/29/2016 8:16:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: xzins; Servant of the Cross
He was banned, I gather from saying the same kind of stuff you told me he said to you, although I didn't see it at the time.

I just noted an article by him last week, he was actually trying to defend Cruz, saying his stand would be remembered for Cruz being proved right over time.

It was such a bad premise, so embarrassing, just like the one he was idolizing as the perfect candidate. Very sad, as I told you once, I had a very positive posting relationship with him once upon a time, enjoyed his back and forth, but judging from that article, he's gone over the edge and off the cliff.

25 posted on 07/29/2016 8:36:28 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: dontreadthis

Hillary will get a 5 point bounce in at least one poll:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-29/why-reuters-tweaking-its-presidential-poll

“Reuters/Ipsos poll currently has Trump 40.2%, Clinton 38.5%, but, Reuters reports, eliminating “Neither” from the “Neither/Other” answer produced a different result. In that case, Clinton was ahead, 40% to 36%.

The amended Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll will be published later Friday.”

“Published later Friday”... what a “lucky” “coincidence”...


26 posted on 07/29/2016 8:39:39 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: BigEdLB

Hillary can get no bounce of any significance from this convention, because there is nowhere for her to gain...

She’s locked up the Democratic vote (although DNC Leaks might actually weaken her among this group) she’s been polling with her support right about where every democrat in my lifetime has been in every election among democrats.... She can’t milk any more from her base.

Idependents on the other hand are around 20 points pro trump in nearly every poll I’ve seen that has published internals.... The only reason the race has not been a completely blowout against Hillary so far is because Trump is running about 12 points behind where Republicans tend to be among support from REPUBLICANS.

So, Trump has room to grow in his base, Hillary has none, and Trump is up 20 points among independents... Hillary, to win, must get about 15% of independents or better, to decide between now and Nov that they need to rethink their support of Trump/rejection of her...

Meanwhile Trump has until November to grow his support among the Republican base.... while holding on to independents he’s already got supporting him.

Now, which scenario do you think is more likely to happen?????

Trump may not get all 12% that a typical Republican would get from republican votes, but you better believe by November, he’ll certain have his support among republicans closer to traditional levels. Personally I think Trump probably gained 2-3 points from Ted Cruz’s speech alone among that group.

Trump has also suffered in polling due to a reverse Bradley effect, online polling consistently shows Trump polling better than in phone polling. These folks will be getting more and more willing to admit their support now that the race is official... Trump again, has at least 2-3% on the low end more support that polls are showing due to this as well.

November is going to be a bloodbath for democrats.

Yes, they will invent their polls to show it a race... and probably show her a big fake bounce.. but there is nothing that’s fundamentally changed in the race this week, so its all garbage.. DNSLeaks and Bernie Drama dominated Monday and Tuesday, Trump completely stole Wednesday from their little love in, so how anyone thinks this thing would create any significant momentum shift is laughable.


27 posted on 07/29/2016 8:42:59 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Lakeshark

He decided we were all brain dead stupids, said so, and that’s the last I saw him.


28 posted on 07/29/2016 10:06:23 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Albion Wilde

It takes a Potemkin Village to raise a Hillary to National office...


29 posted on 07/29/2016 10:35:36 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Diversity" was never THE goal. Diversity was a byproduct of people coming 'yearning to be free'.)
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To: dontreadthis

I wouldn’t worry about it at all, not at this point at least. We have the nominees and it will be less and less possible to hide their real numbers as time goes on. For a time the MSM will be declaring victory. Ignore it.


30 posted on 07/29/2016 10:39:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mrsmith

Another “Clinton bounce”-benefitting polling reporting change:

“a new polling rule from HuffPollster ... As of today, the only notable consequence of the new rule is that Ohio goes from a tie to Clinton +4%. “
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/07/27/temporary-glitch/


31 posted on 07/29/2016 12:32:03 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
Radical left wing Blog Huffing Puffinton post- just cooking the polls when the facts don't shoe comrade Hillary ahead .
We are told this garbage is believable ?

Read the comments .
All left wing experts trashing Trump .
All these experts trying to cook up methods to help their Queen Hilary .

These polls are pure BS based on wild guess or hunches by leftist not any statistics.

32 posted on 07/31/2016 1:54:00 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: dontreadthis

Let the left believe their media’s BS polls. Trump and his silent majority will shock them all when we win by 8 to 10 points.


33 posted on 07/31/2016 2:01:35 PM PDT by jersey117 (ut)
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