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Social Security under fire for plan to disarm seniors
wnd.com ^ | 7/18/2016 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 07/18/2016 6:39:39 AM PDT by rktman

“It also appears that the adjudication of a recipient as being mentally defective can be made by any federal bureaucrat working for the SSA, and they can make the decision without any medical professional being involved. The often vague and sometimes generalized criteria for this adjudication process described in the proposed regulations clearly denies the basic elements of due process to the affected social security beneficiaries.

“The burden of proving they are competent and/or not mentally defective falls squarely on the Social Security beneficiary. This means the bottom line for Social Security recipients is the same as that for veterans. They are being denied their right to keep and bear arms protected by the Second Amendment without due process of law.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist
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To: tbw2

I’d love to see something bad happen to those people. OK, maybe not losing their gun rights.


21 posted on 07/18/2016 8:00:12 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: SkyDancer

Some states have laws requiring 24-hour notice after a gun is lost or stolen.


22 posted on 07/18/2016 8:05:24 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Mariner
"... the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.""...

Learn it, live it, love it ... or haul your sorry carcass over to the demonicRAT party where you belong.

Your faith in the intelligence, good faith, and honor of government bureaucrats is misplaced.

23 posted on 07/18/2016 8:20:42 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: rktman

When the governmetn gives you something it can take away everything.


24 posted on 07/18/2016 9:24:39 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: FlingWingFlyer

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When I was a kid, we had this thing called The Bill of Rights in America. “Rights” weren’t just liberal psychobabble meaning more free stuff for the freeloaders.
>

Please! That’s *SO* passe.

You have a vocal group on this very board screaming, ‘Don’t though *my* SS’ (as if they paid into the illegal Ponzi scheme), the same/another 100% behind the ‘War on (some) Drugs’ and a bigger crowd A.O.K. with having a caste-system RE: ‘ex-cons’ vs. their Rights once their sentence is OVER.

/I wish I was /s


25 posted on 07/18/2016 9:28:10 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: NorthMountain
Learn it, live it, love it ... or haul your sorry carcass over to the demonicRAT party Cuba/Venezuela/UK/etc. where you belong.
26 posted on 07/18/2016 9:31:03 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: SkyDancer

Mine were stored with a privately owned server, in a closet in Chappaqua, New York. I have no knowledge of where they are.
In 1969, all my Father’s were in an wrecked Oldsmobile in Chappaquidick. We never saw those again.


27 posted on 07/18/2016 9:51:59 AM PDT by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: rktman

The recipients have the burden of proof?

That means guilty until proven innocent to a bunch of govt. drones.

Another version of a death panel.


28 posted on 07/18/2016 9:57:08 AM PDT by Texas resident (Obama's enemies are my friends)
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To: firebrand

They guns just went in the drink - where do I fill in the paperwork? Then too, Washington does not require firearm owners to report the loss or theft of a firearm, however if they’re insured you contact your insurance company. They write separate policies for firearms.


29 posted on 07/18/2016 9:59:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: rktman

Yeah, every so often we go out into Puget Sound and drop a wreath ... sad, very sad.


30 posted on 07/18/2016 10:00:29 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: rktman

How many ‘congressmen’ are over 60?


31 posted on 07/18/2016 10:05:32 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: rktman

They can have my guns.

When all my ammo is gone, and I’m dead.

I won’t need it any more at that point.


32 posted on 07/18/2016 10:07:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Texas resident

Terror watch list? “We ‘think’ we may have a problem with you so we’re gonna put you on the list. Just for safety sake of course.”


33 posted on 07/18/2016 10:18:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
This means the bottom line for Social Security recipients is the same as that for veterans. They are being denied their right to keep and bear arms protected by the Second Amendment without due process of law.

18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

34 posted on 07/18/2016 10:40:28 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: rktman
Carolyn W. Colvin
Acting Commissioner of Social Security


Carolyn W. Colvin believes there is no greater calling than public service. Putting her own retirement on hold, Ms. Colvin returned to public service at the request of President Barack Obama to serve as deputy commissioner of the Social Security Administration in January 2011. Since February 14, 2013, Ms. Colvin has served as acting commissioner. Receiving the president’s vote of confidence to lead the agency, Ms. Colvin was nominated to serve as the commissioner on June 20, 2014.

Recently inducted into the National Forum for Black Public Administrators Hall of Fame and named one of the Baltimore Sun’s “50 Women to Watch,” Ms. Colvin brings more than 30 years of senior executive leadership experience to the agency. She has led numerous health and human service organizations at the state and municipal levels of government, including serving in various capacities within Social Security. Ms. Colvin also serves as a member of the Social Security Board of Trustees and a National Academy of Public Administration’s Fellow.

As acting commissioner, Ms. Colvin oversees one of the largest agencies in the federal government, with more than 60,000 federal employees nationwide plus another 18,000 state employees who make medical determinations in the disability program. Social Security is responsible for paying more than $800 billion each year in monthly benefits to more than 60 million recipients. The agency also maintains the lifetime earnings records of more than 165 million workers.

Under Ms. Colvin’s leadership, the agency strives to provide excellent customer service in today’s tight fiscal climate while positioning itself to deliver services in the future that meet the changing needs of the public. Acting Commissioner Colvin’s dedication to public service ensures the agency provides prompt, accurate, and compassionate service—whether online, by phone, or in a Social Security office. Ms. Colvin consistently reminds the staff that behind every case or number, there is a person or family depending on the agency for help.

Ms. Colvin received her undergraduate and graduate degrees in Business Administration and an honorary doctorate in Public Service from Morgan State University in Baltimore, Maryland. She lives in Odenton, Maryland.

35 posted on 07/18/2016 10:45:14 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Texas resident
That means guilty until proven innocent to a bunch of govt. drones.

Another version of a death panel.

Turn about is fair play.

Two Red Guard members in front of a firing squad in Varkaus, Finland, during the 1918 attempted Communist coup

36 posted on 07/18/2016 10:50:57 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Mariner

There ARE veterans and SSI recipients who ARE mentally deficient and probably dangerous if given a gun. They should NOT be allowed to do so but that determination must be made by a judge in a court proceeding called for that particular case - NOT by a GS-9 clerk who just happens to be in charge of the computer that prints the signature of her boss. According to the Constitution, no one is to be deprived of life, liberty or property without a court order to that effect.


37 posted on 07/18/2016 12:11:50 PM PDT by oldfart
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To: firebrand

I’m still trying to figure out how someone got a turkey on an airplane.


38 posted on 07/18/2016 4:25:04 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Maybe you got on Air Force One by mistake.


39 posted on 07/18/2016 7:46:33 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: oldfart
There ARE veterans and SSI recipients who ARE mentally deficient and probably dangerous if given a gun.

And are even more dangerous if you give them a few grenades.


40 posted on 07/19/2016 8:11:22 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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