Posted on 07/11/2016 2:42:01 AM PDT by nikos1121
Edited on 07/11/2016 3:01:49 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I've come full circle on choices for VP. Sarah Palin to Condi Rice to Newt, Rand Paul, Paul LePage and Chris Christie.
In the past few days, General Flynn has been thrown out there.
It looks like Pence has been the choice for some time now. And I take my hat off to many here who predicted this weeks ago.
LIKE ONYX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An article was posted here last week:
Pence has 10 days to accept VP nod from Trump http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3446588/posts
Now that we presume he is the choice, it makes a lot of sense, and once again shows that Trump is thinking of the best people. NO doubt Bobby Knight had something to do with this.
In short, Mike Pence is a dynamite choice. He will fire up the republican base to come out strong. He assures in Indiana and maybe even Ohio too.
Here are the salient facts from Wikipedia
Michael Richard "Mike" Pence (born June 7, 1959) is an American politician and attorney who is currently serving as the 50th Governor of Indiana, taking office in 2013. A member of the Republican Party, he previously represented Indiana's 6th congressional district in the United States House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013 and served as Chairman of the House Republican Conference from 2009 to 2011.
Early life, education, and family.
Pence was born in Columbus, Indiana, one of six children of Nancy Jane (née Cawley) and Edward J. Pence, Jr., who ran a string of gas stations.His family were Irish Catholic Democrats.He was named after his grandfather, Richard Michael Cawley, a Chicago bus driver who came to the United States from Ireland through Ellis Island. He graduated from Columbus North High School in 1977. Pence earned a B.A. in History from Hanover College in 1981 and a J.D. from the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in 1986. While at Hanover, Pence joined the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity, serving as his chapter's president.
Pence and his wife Karen have three children: Michael, Charlotte, and Audrey. Pence is a declared Christian. During his service in the U.S. House, the Pence family lived in Arlington, Virginia when Congress was in session.
Tenure
Pence served for a time as the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of conservative House Republicans.
His Committee assignments in the U.S. House included: Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia (Vice Chair), Judiciary, Subcommittee on the Constitution (Vice Chair), and Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet. While in Congress he belonged to the Congressional Internet Caucus, International Conservation Caucus, Sportsmen's Caucus, and the Tea Party Caucus.
Economy
Pence was a cosponsor of a Spending Limit Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This amendment would limit federal spending to one-fifth of the American economy – the historical average since World War II.
Earmarks
Pence was a supporter of earmark reform. He voted against the $139.7 billion transportation-treasury spending bill in June 2006, and in favor of a series of amendments proposed that same month by Jeff Flake that would strip other members’ earmarks from the federal budget. Pence, on occasion, secured earmark projects such as $500,000 for the “Transit Acquisition and Intermodal Facility Project” in his state, as well as $250,000 for construction of a park in Portland. Pence secured earmarks for inclusion in a labor-health and human services 2007FY bill. This included $200,000 for both Ball State University’s Center for School Innovation in Muncie and to the Madison County Community Health Center in Anderson. Pence also secured $100,000 for Ivy Tech Community College in Columbus.
Immigration laws
In June 2006, Pence unveiled a plan he describes as "no amnesty immigration reform", consisting of increased border security, followed by strict enforcement of laws against hiring illegal aliens, and a guest worker program. This guest worker program requires potential participants to apply from their home country to government-approved job placement agencies that match workers with employers who cannot find Americans for the job.The plan received support from conservative leaders such as Dick Armey.Pat Buchanan, writing at WorldNetDaily, described this as "stealth amnesty," claiming that it is merely a "one week vacation" for illegal immigrants to return to their home country to apply for jobs under the program.Conservatives Phyllis Schlafly and Tom Tancredo criticized Pence's plan.
Foreign policy
Pence supported the joint resolution authorizing military action against Iraq, otherwise known as the Iraq Resolution.The resolution cited factors including Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors, Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population," and Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War as reasons for taking action.
During the Iraq War, Pence opposed setting a public withdrawal date from Iraq. During an April 2007 visit to Baghdad, Pence and John McCain visited Shorja market, the site of a deadly attack in February, 2007, that claimed the lives of 61 people. Pence and McCain described the visit as evidence that the security situation in Iraqi markets have improved.[35] The visit to the market took place under large security including helicopters overhead, and was was criticized by The New York Times as giving a false indication of how secure the area was due to the extremely heavy security forces McCain brought with him.
Pence has opposed closing the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and trying the suspected terrorists in the U.S. Pence believes that “the Obama administration must overturn this wrongheaded decision”.As an alternative, Pence has said that the "enemy combatants" should be tried in a military tribunal.
Pence has stated his support of Israel and its right to attack facilities in Iran to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons, has defended the actions of Israel in its use of deadly force in enforcing the blockade of Gaza, and has referred to Israel as "America's most cherished ally".
LGBT rights
In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexual's as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organisations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” and instead advocated that resources be directed towards conversion therapy programs.
Pence has said that homosexuals should not serve in the military, saying "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion" and in 2010 stated that repealing Don't ask, don't tell would "have an impact on unit cohesion."Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act, saying that Obama wanted to "advance a radical social agenda"and said that pastors "could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior."
Pence opposes both same-sex marriage and civil unions.He has referred to Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin's findings that throughout history, societal collapse was brought about by the deterioration of marriage and family.
He has advocated a constitutional same-sex marriage ban, but did not champion such a proposed ban for his first year as governor.
Other
In 2005, after Hurricane Katrina struck the Louisiana coast, Pence favored offsetting the costs of the hurricane with $24 billion in other spending reductions.
Pence is an advocate of federal restrictions of online gambling. In 2006, he and 34 others members of the House cosponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act,and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.
After the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the Affordable Care Act on June 28, 2012, Pence, in a closed door meeting, said that the ruling upholding the health care law was similar to the September 11 terrorist attacks.He immediately apologized for making the statement.
“Boring choice
looks old for his age
not exciting speaker
not charismatic”
Thus the reason why this person needed a wall of text to try to make this seem” logical”.
Sorry, I don’t see what Pence brings to the ticket. Boring choice. I was hoping for more excitement and someone with military background.
The primary ended in Indiana, the general might as well start there. I’m ok with that choice.
Lincoln looked old for his age in 1860.
ff
From what I remember, Pence gave Cruz a lukewarm, almost forced endorsement. At the same time, Pence said nothing negative about President Trump.
Choosing him is in and of itself a presidential move.
This is Trump’s first ACTION as presidential candidate, and it is a very well-thought out presidential move.
Pence isn’t perfect, but I don’t think the perfect person is out there. Certainly not old-man-fat-man Newt.
I like Newt a lot, I think he’s great, but he’s an old-man-fat-man and face it all you Newt-pushers, he would look ridiculous up there. Trump is first and foremost a media genius and a presidential campaign is first and foremost a casting job. The reason Trump went from zero-to-sixty in five seconds is he is cast perfectly as President of the United States.
If Trump picks Newt, he is casting Mr. Old-Man-Fat-Man as his running mate and is flushing his casting skills, and his media savvy, down the toilet.
There are basically three groups of voters out there with regard to Trump:
1) those who will vote for Trump no matter what (such as myself)
2) those who will vote for an Al Qaeda terrorist over Trump (all leftists and muzzies in America)
3) the apolitical dunderheads who bumble through life not realizing that we currently have an Al Qaeda terrorist as president (ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but you get my point) and get ALL their opinions about Trump from the Al Qaeda-loving news media.
It is this third group that Trump needs to address with a well-thought-out PRESIDENTIAL decision with regard to choosing a running mate.
The Al Qaeda News Media says Trump can’t be trusted to make PRESIDENTIAL decisions.
Choosing Pence proves them wrong.
Lets not forget Gov. Pence stated he needed executive exp. before he ran for President or chosen VP.
This why Gov. Pence ran and got elected Gov.
hey, at least he is very Presidential! by now we have all seen hims speak. Remember when he spoke at that annual conservative convention? after that speech, we were begging for him to run. I mentioned this before, I think he will eat away at Hillary’s women vote. The guy is handsome, and very manly!
True
Also Qualye was not experienced enough. He might have been a good VP four or eight years later.
“Certainly not old-man-fat-man Newt.”
So we should pick people on how photogenic they are? How much they weigh and how old they are?
Hmm. Better idea. How about picking them on how good they’d be at the job?
Yes. He spoke at the 9/12 rally in DC.
meh
Joe Biden is an embarrassment
Quayle was just star struck
Trump is 70 years old. Newt is 73. That in itself disqualifies him from being the VP choice.
Trump is already up there. He needs someone younger with him, younger but with great government experience to mollify those who worry about what happens if something happens to Trump. It doesn’t take a genius to see that.
And Trump is a media (and increasingly a political) genius. He probably saw it in the first 15 seconds he considered it.
I’m sure he likes Newt. What’s not to like? Always the smartest man in the room.
But his time for the Presidential Stage has passed and, frankly, he blew it in 2012. He should have been able to beat Putz Romney, and he couldn’t pull it off.
Can Pence run for re-election as Indiana governor and for the vice-president spot at the same time? Otherwise you would be asking him to choose between a virtual certainty of being re-elected governor and the relative uncertainty of being elected vice-president.
Do we need an attack dog this election? Trump does extremely well holding his own. From what I read, it appears Pence is squeaky clean. What could possibly hurt him,...other than the dead hooker or live boy scenario. I don’t see that happening. He is youthful. As much as I would like to see Trump/Sessions, I think it would be harder because of the age factor. He appears to be well liked by the people of Indiana and other republicans. Hopefully, that brings some unity to the ticket. Would he has some impact on the surrounding states, Michigan, Ohio or even Wisconsin.....sorry, Illinois is hopeless. I trust Trump. If this is his pick, he was vetted thoroughly and is the best fit.
If Pence goes VP will your friend Zeller step in the governor race? A Governor from southern Indiana again? He has the statewide experience
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