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Mike Pence THE LOGICAL CHOICE FOR VICE PRESIDENT
7/11/2016 | nikos1121

Posted on 07/11/2016 2:42:01 AM PDT by nikos1121

Edited on 07/11/2016 3:01:49 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I've come full circle on choices for VP. Sarah Palin to Condi Rice to Newt, Rand Paul, Paul LePage and Chris Christie.

In the past few days, General Flynn has been thrown out there.

It looks like Pence has been the choice for some time now. And I take my hat off to many here who predicted this weeks ago.

LIKE ONYX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An article was posted here last week:

Pence has 10 days to accept VP nod from Trump http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3446588/posts

Now that we presume he is the choice, it makes a lot of sense, and once again shows that Trump is thinking of the best people. NO doubt Bobby Knight had something to do with this.

In short, Mike Pence is a dynamite choice. He will fire up the republican base to come out strong. He assures in Indiana and maybe even Ohio too.

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Here are the salient facts from Wikipedia

Michael Richard "Mike" Pence (born June 7, 1959) is an American politician and attorney who is currently serving as the 50th Governor of Indiana, taking office in 2013. A member of the Republican Party, he previously represented Indiana's 6th congressional district in the United States House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013 and served as Chairman of the House Republican Conference from 2009 to 2011.

Early life, education, and family.

Pence was born in Columbus, Indiana, one of six children of Nancy Jane (née Cawley) and Edward J. Pence, Jr., who ran a string of gas stations.His family were Irish Catholic Democrats.He was named after his grandfather, Richard Michael Cawley, a Chicago bus driver who came to the United States from Ireland through Ellis Island. He graduated from Columbus North High School in 1977. Pence earned a B.A. in History from Hanover College in 1981 and a J.D. from the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in 1986. While at Hanover, Pence joined the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity, serving as his chapter's president.

Pence and his wife Karen have three children: Michael, Charlotte, and Audrey. Pence is a declared Christian. During his service in the U.S. House, the Pence family lived in Arlington, Virginia when Congress was in session.

Tenure

Pence served for a time as the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of conservative House Republicans.

His Committee assignments in the U.S. House included: Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia (Vice Chair), Judiciary, Subcommittee on the Constitution (Vice Chair), and Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet. While in Congress he belonged to the Congressional Internet Caucus, International Conservation Caucus, Sportsmen's Caucus, and the Tea Party Caucus.

Economy

Pence was a cosponsor of a Spending Limit Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This amendment would limit federal spending to one-fifth of the American economy – the historical average since World War II.

Earmarks

Pence was a supporter of earmark reform. He voted against the $139.7 billion transportation-treasury spending bill in June 2006, and in favor of a series of amendments proposed that same month by Jeff Flake that would strip other members’ earmarks from the federal budget. Pence, on occasion, secured earmark projects such as $500,000 for the “Transit Acquisition and Intermodal Facility Project” in his state, as well as $250,000 for construction of a park in Portland. Pence secured earmarks for inclusion in a labor-health and human services 2007FY bill. This included $200,000 for both Ball State University’s Center for School Innovation in Muncie and to the Madison County Community Health Center in Anderson. Pence also secured $100,000 for Ivy Tech Community College in Columbus.

Immigration laws

In June 2006, Pence unveiled a plan he describes as "no amnesty immigration reform", consisting of increased border security, followed by strict enforcement of laws against hiring illegal aliens, and a guest worker program. This guest worker program requires potential participants to apply from their home country to government-approved job placement agencies that match workers with employers who cannot find Americans for the job.The plan received support from conservative leaders such as Dick Armey.Pat Buchanan, writing at WorldNetDaily, described this as "stealth amnesty," claiming that it is merely a "one week vacation" for illegal immigrants to return to their home country to apply for jobs under the program.Conservatives Phyllis Schlafly and Tom Tancredo criticized Pence's plan.

Foreign policy

Pence supported the joint resolution authorizing military action against Iraq, otherwise known as the Iraq Resolution.The resolution cited factors including Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors, Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population," and Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War as reasons for taking action.

During the Iraq War, Pence opposed setting a public withdrawal date from Iraq. During an April 2007 visit to Baghdad, Pence and John McCain visited Shorja market, the site of a deadly attack in February, 2007, that claimed the lives of 61 people. Pence and McCain described the visit as evidence that the security situation in Iraqi markets have improved.[35] The visit to the market took place under large security including helicopters overhead, and was was criticized by The New York Times as giving a false indication of how secure the area was due to the extremely heavy security forces McCain brought with him.

Pence has opposed closing the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and trying the suspected terrorists in the U.S. Pence believes that “the Obama administration must overturn this wrongheaded decision”.As an alternative, Pence has said that the "enemy combatants" should be tried in a military tribunal.

Pence has stated his support of Israel and its right to attack facilities in Iran to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons, has defended the actions of Israel in its use of deadly force in enforcing the blockade of Gaza, and has referred to Israel as "America's most cherished ally".

LGBT rights

In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexual's as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organisations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” and instead advocated that resources be directed towards conversion therapy programs.

Pence has said that homosexuals should not serve in the military, saying "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion" and in 2010 stated that repealing Don't ask, don't tell would "have an impact on unit cohesion."Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act, saying that Obama wanted to "advance a radical social agenda"and said that pastors "could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior."

Pence opposes both same-sex marriage and civil unions.He has referred to Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin's findings that throughout history, societal collapse was brought about by the deterioration of marriage and family.

He has advocated a constitutional same-sex marriage ban, but did not champion such a proposed ban for his first year as governor.

Other

In 2005, after Hurricane Katrina struck the Louisiana coast, Pence favored offsetting the costs of the hurricane with $24 billion in other spending reductions.

Pence is an advocate of federal restrictions of online gambling. In 2006, he and 34 others members of the House cosponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act,and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.

After the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the Affordable Care Act on June 28, 2012, Pence, in a closed door meeting, said that the ruling upholding the health care law was similar to the September 11 terrorist attacks.He immediately apologized for making the statement.



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1 posted on 07/11/2016 2:42:01 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: 1217Chic; 3D-JOY; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; acoulterfan; Airwinger; Albion Wilde; ...

I think Trump made his choice weeks ago, and put the ball squarely into Mike Pence’s hands to decide. I think he did, as Trump is scheduled to go to Indiana tomorrow.

I think it’s a fantastic choice!!!!


2 posted on 07/11/2016 2:44:20 AM PDT by nikos1121 (A Trump presidency will be like The Golden Age of Pericles in Greece)
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To: nikos1121
I can live with Pence, he was one of my 1st picks for Potus over a year ago. However, the last time we had a good man ( he truly was ) from Indiana for VP the Press eviscerated him, and that was Dan Quayle. How do we prevent Pence from being (sadly it now a verb) being Quayled, or do we leave that to Team Trump? They have proven themselves to not be shrinking violets, so he may be in good hands...

Help carry Ohio? Perhaps, but IMHO Trump has got a lot of work to do to carry Michigan, it is winnable IMHO... He needs to start by visiting Wayne Assembly (look it up), possibly the tour guided by Bill Ford or Mark Fields and mend some bridges...

3 posted on 07/11/2016 2:49:51 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: nikos1121
I hope you don't mind the plug for Nehlen!


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4 posted on 07/11/2016 2:58:22 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: nikos1121

I was hoping for Newt, but I have always liked Mike Pence. If he is Trump’s choice, then I approve. I hope he keeps Newt around as an advisor though!


5 posted on 07/11/2016 3:08:59 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: taildragger

Quayle was an idiot. He had some dyslexia. He was in many ways over his head. I’m sorry, he was an embarrassment. Not to say that behind the scenes he wasn’t a good man, and didn’t get things done. He did.

Pence has a stronger temperament. Being Governor molds you in a different way than if you’re a Senator or Rep.

This is a good choice. ENergy. Newt was great at the same age, but lacks energy now, plus he’s got the tub.

Pence looks good next to Trump.

On the other side you have Hillary standing next to another loser.


6 posted on 07/11/2016 3:10:35 AM PDT by nikos1121 (A Trump presidency will be like The Golden Age of Pericles in Greece)
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To: nikos1121

Boring choice
looks old for his age
not exciting speaker
not charismatic

Fauxcahontas is an attack dog, and so is Hellary he is a Maltese and they are Dobermans

VP needs to be the one to attack for the ticket, that lets Trump be Presidential and discuss policy

I am not sure Pence is tough or skilled enough to be a good verbal fighter. The Clintons are street fighter who get down and dirty.


7 posted on 07/11/2016 3:36:26 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: nikos1121
"Not to say that behind the scenes he wasn’t a good man, and didn’t get things done."

Niko's I didn't know about the dyslexia ( diagnosed ? ), however I do know he told Bush the Elder that the George Mitchell Tax increase was a bad idea. Had the Elder listened, would history be much different....

8 posted on 07/11/2016 3:39:07 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: nikos1121

A good solid choice. Just like Trump.
I can’t see any downside.

TRUMP/PENCE 2016

Let’s do this!!!


9 posted on 07/11/2016 3:39:15 AM PDT by weston (Ashttps://youtu.be/oBb2EQmtnhQ far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Pence was a conservative radio all so host at one time.
He has the verbal chops.


10 posted on 07/11/2016 3:43:03 AM PDT by weston (Ashttps://youtu.be/oBb2EQmtnhQ far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: sneakers
Newt shoots from the lip at times. The other thing is that the multiple wives situation highlights the issue. Other factor is running with someone older than Trump isn't forward It would have Hillary claiming "family values" on her side....bizarre, I know, but don't giver her the opening to lie

I trust Mr. Trump to make the best decision. Governor Pence probably can help in Midwestern states because he's had experience with the issues in that swath of the US with a lot of common challenges.

11 posted on 07/11/2016 3:46:09 AM PDT by grania
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To: Zenjitsuman
I am not sure Pence is tough or skilled enough to be a good verbal fighter.

Besides having been a successful talk radio host, he has a congressman before being elected governor. He is actually conservative (despite imperfections, which we all have) and is actually well-qualified to be president. Choosing him is in and of itself a presidential move.

VP needs to be the one to attack for the ticket, that lets Trump be Presidential and discuss policy

Some football teams throw the long ball, some do a lot of dink-and-dunk passing, some lean heavily on the running game. Trump is never going to be a policy wonk, discussing policy in detail, and is comfortable being the attack dog as needed. George W. Bush went with Cheney as the policy wonk, and it helped him win the election (that is NOT to compare Trump with George the Younger in any other way!).

Pence is a mature, good choice, and will solidify the support of conservative Republicans who fear that a President Trump might walk back certain positions.
12 posted on 07/11/2016 3:47:28 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: taildragger

I’ve heard Quayle speak many times since being VP. He is actually quite brilliant and very conservative which is why the media “Palinzed” him.
His Murphy Brown statements were right on.
He was way to the right of Pappy Bush, who I no longer respect.


13 posted on 07/11/2016 3:47:55 AM PDT by weston (Ashttps://youtu.be/oBb2EQmtnhQ far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: nikos1121

Where’s all this coming from? As far as I can see, it’s just another newspaper report claiming to know something. Two days ago is was a different report and another guy and they knew something, TOO.


14 posted on 07/11/2016 3:49:36 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: nikos1121

I am hoping Governor Pence joins Trump on stage for a show of unity with his cause.


15 posted on 07/11/2016 3:51:08 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: jonrick46

I still don’t see how that means anything. Last week Newt appeared on stage with Trump.


16 posted on 07/11/2016 3:53:04 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: nikos1121; hoosiermama
NO doubt Bobby Knight had something to do with this.

You betcha! I also agree with you that it's been Governor Pence's decision to accept or reject.

He's a safe choice and I'll wager he will be much tougher than several here are currently crediting him.

He is very likeable.

17 posted on 07/11/2016 3:53:50 AM PDT by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY because YOU POST HERE! VOTE TRUMP, at least once!)
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To: Pravious

It makes sense. They floated his name out a few weeks ago, then there was an article about him being given the offer and he had 15 days to respond.

You have Trump in Indiana a lot. I think Indiana put him over the top. I think in that time, he saw a lot of Pence.

Pence is a TEa Party guy. He’s young and energetic. Has the best of both worlds, the legislative national scene experience and the local governorship where you run things.

I think he was a Cruz guy early on, but I think he’s full square with Trump.

He has the same convictions. Low taxes...etc.

They look good together. Solid family guy. No skeletons.

The rest of the field compared to him look ragged. Newt is the best but looks like a Grandpa JOnes with that gut.

There’s a place for him.

There’s a place for everybody.

What will get me, is if he picks Pence and the rubios and bushes and Romney’s and mccains stay home, then srew em...


18 posted on 07/11/2016 3:56:31 AM PDT by nikos1121 (A Trump presidency will be like The Golden Age of Pericles in Greece)
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To: nikos1121

Thanks for the information, but is there any concrete information that Pence is actually Trump’s pick - or is this just another rumor?


19 posted on 07/11/2016 4:11:32 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Zenjitsuman
That's nice - tell us what you consider to be Pence's weak points without telling us who you think has the toughness and verbal skills, and why they are a better all-around choice......

So many "expert pundits" and so few who concentrate on the important crap....

20 posted on 07/11/2016 4:14:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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