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To: Windflier

The fact that you can not accept that someone can have real, logical, moral reason to disagree with you is most troubling.

More troubling though is the way so many wish to silence those who don’t agree. They use the same methods that we have been subjected to by the other side for eight years Disparage and ridicule those who would dare to disagree. A good example is writing off legitimate disagreement as ‘butt hurt’ and then when that doesn’t work use force to silence them.

Yes the goals may be different, but the methods are the same.

I am truly sorry for what has happened and though you may not see it now it has weakened all of us. I leave you with the words of Voltaire:

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It


59 posted on 06/30/2016 11:35:25 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

“The fact that you can not accept that someone can have real, logical, moral reason to disagree with you is most troubling.”

I can accept that you disagree. What I don’t accept, is the idea that you reject Donald Trump as Republican nominee, on logical and moral grounds.

To oppose Trump at this point (as some die hard Cruzers are still doing), is illogical AND immoral. Honestly, it’s downright idiotic, and should be condemned and resisted by every patriotic American, because it’s destructive to our shared goal of saving our beloved country from certain death.

Look. This isn’t a game, or politics as usual. It’s war, and you’d better get on the right side of it. Trump is our last chance to win our country back through peaceful means. He won the primary because most Republican voters measured the field and judged him to be the most capable of accomplishing what must be done.

If you do not change your heart and help push this good man across the finish line, you will have to live with the knowledge that you did nothing to stop the criminal Clintons from seizing control of our White House again.


60 posted on 07/01/2016 8:16:49 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Kartographer

where you err is believing this is all about you.

It isn’t about you or your sanctimonious self righteous clinging to principals.

the primary eliminated that battle.

you must now decide between your selfish self esteem or America.


61 posted on 07/01/2016 8:20:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Kartographer
More troubling though is the way so many wish to silence those who don’t agree.

That's bull. What "so many wish" to do, is to squelch what amounts to nothing more than counterproductive enemy propaganda.

Why? Because it only helps Hillary.

Once again. This community (and the GOP electorate) conducted the debates you're referring to, and they were definitively settled in Donald Trump's favor.

The time for conservatives to tear down Mr. Trump is long passed. Continued attacks on him, from ostensible conservatives, only help Hillary Clinton. They aid and abet the enemy.

The problem is that some fans of Ted Cruz, to this day, simply haven't accepted the fact that he lost, and similarly cannot bring themselves to embrace Donald Trump, even though it's patently obvious that he and this movement are by far the best hope for this Republic at this point in History. If you don't believe that, then expect to be shouted down, censored, censured, or whatever.

Why? Because this is War. In War, there is propaganda and counterpropaganda. There are still Cruz fans who continue to talk past this obvious fact.

The only Freepers that have been zotted during this period are those who became de facto "Tokyo Roses", helping Hillary by failing to accept reality and continuing with gratuitous smears and attacks towards the presumptive GOP nominee.

This community categorically rejects any and all critiques of Trump which parrot the Trump-hating talking points that we hear constantly from the Media, Establishment, and GOPe (but I repeat myself).

Furthermore, I strongly reject your attempt to characterize Jim Robinson's decisions as anything other than the reasonable, logical, and constructive actions that they are, both for this site, and especially for this Revolution which is occurring right before our eyes— a Revolution that Ted Cruz and his bitter ilk continue to deride, dismiss, and weaken by undermining both its leader and its adherents.

It's hard for me to see how anyone who calls himself or herself a conservative or a patriot, could be oblivious to what is happening, and refuse to embrace it.

Donald Trump has demonstrated his worthiness. That debate is over. Ted Cruz needs to get over his bitterness. He was beaten fair and square. Then, he needs to honor the pledge he made, endorse Donald Trump, and direct the remaining holdouts to do the same.

I am truly sorry for what has happened and though you may not see it now it has weakened all of us.

I'm sorry too, and if it has weakened us, it is the Trump-haters and Cruz fanboys alone who are responsible, not Jim Robinson, this community, Donald Trump, or his voters.

Vote Trump!

68 posted on 07/01/2016 10:36:05 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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