Posted on 06/29/2016 12:06:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
European Union leaders drew a stark line along the British Channel on Wednesday, telling the U.K. that it cannot keep valuable business links with its former continental partners in a seamless single EU market, if it doesn’t also accept European workers.
The challenge cuts to the heart of the British vote to leave the bloc following a virulent campaign where migration from poorer EU countries was a key concern. It also sets the scene for the complex departure negotiations facing departing Prime Minister David Cameron’s successor, for which nominations opened in London Wednesday.
Meeting for the first time without the U.K., the 27 other EU nations set out a united strategy to face the next British government which will seek to salvage as many of the EU rights as possible while reneging on a maximum amount of obligations.
They emerged from the summit insisting that the “four freedoms” central to European unity are indivisible: the free movement of people, services, goods and finances. …
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Yeah, I just did. I was sooo associating that with posts I still see here that are Cruz people still insulting Trump. I admit my mistake and apologize to all. Brain block. Or Dementia.
Yes, definitely. Then the EU will punish the UK with a high import duty on fish, so it will get exported to the US and other non-EU countries.
Look for good UK fish to start replacing that Chinese stuff in the supermarkets...:^)
Well, Donald Tusk is a politician from Poland, a former member of Solidarnosc (Solidarity, Lech Walesa’s former trade union) and also the former PM of that country, who is currently a EU bureaucrat, the replacement for Herman van Rompuy as the appointed President of the European Council. He has come out rather strongly in support of the EU being led by Germany, especially to form a response to Russia.
Next up...protect the border from passage of persons from the EU without a proper visa. Send non-UK subjects back to the EU. Pry them off the dole and expel the leeches.
The first time I saw that flag was in 1992, I was in Amsterdam and they were all cheering the beginning and I told some of them that it will be the end of their County’s sovereignty. They couldn’t come up with a logical answer.
If Trump gets in, all he has to do to put a damper on this crap is tell the EU dorks that if they want to trade with the USA, they will have to deal with the UK, that is where the USA is going to set up its distribution network for goods going into the EU.
Oh and BTW. When Trump gets in the UK will become a big buyer of US energy. NG will become really important to the UK since the Russians are using it to their (Russian) advantage.
The North Sea wont last long.
As island nations, Ireland and the UK were allowed to be in the EU and also control their borders, in which they share control allowing free flow between the two of them. Why this would change for the UK as a condition of being part of the EU economic area, and how this could change for the UK and not for Ireland, I don’t know.
Norway and Switzerland are the two largest non-EU countries that are part of the EU economic zone. Being continental countries, they allow free flow of people as well as goods and capital. They are expected to adopt EU economic regulations and industrial standards, in which they only have a passive voice to determine. Many of these are innocuous. Some of them make sense. But, they keep coming, more and more of them. At some point if not already, this will be very bothersome.
The number of displaced persons entering Europe has proven very troubling. A number of countries are seeking control of their borders. Many of these people are not able to earn of living or of conducting themselves as members of a free society. And, as a result of there being so many of them, they are able to form ethnic enclaves in which they and their children resist assimilation.
Obviously, if the EU doesn’t get its head out of its egress, the European project will fail. More EU countries will opt out, and Germany will be left along with its welfare clients to its south.
None of the EU regulations are innocuous. Especially since they are written and imposed by unelected bureaucrats.
And the “European project” was always imperialistic in outlook.
>>None of the EU regulations are innocuous.
As an example of an innocuous or even good regulation is having bumpers on cars the same height off the ground. Another is having the distance between the rails of a railroad to be the same distance across. A third is to have the number of turns on a bolt of a certain size equal the number of turns on the nut. Such things as these facilitate trade and competition across national borders.
But, with regard to whether “None of the EU regulations are innocuous,” it kind of depends on what the meaning of “are” is. Until recently, almost all were enacted by Norway and Switzerland unanimously or on a voice vote. That was then. But, the regulations keep coming, and there is now growing resistance to them. This is now.
Strategically, one could say that the obnoxious part was that the initial innocuous or even good part would tend to grow into an increasingly intrusive part. But, tendencies are only tendencies. They’re not destiny. So, we would want to retain options, including the option to leave, for when good or at least innocuous things become, first, entangling, and then intrusive.
Great Britain, by exiting the EU, sends a powerful signal that the EU should reverse the tendency of bureaucracies to outgrow their useful. Great Britain can actually save the EU from itself. But, frankly, I don’t think so. It will take a few more countries to leave. Once the German people realize there will be nobody to subsidize the sale of German products on credit to southern Europeans, they will be amenable to reform of the EU.
Merkel has grown deluded by her past success. She now sees her future moving to the left and she denies the rise of the populist right. The sooner she steps down or is defeated the better for Germany.
Wouldn’t that defeat its purpose?
Britain: "We have money. You have goods. Let's trade."
EU: "Here's our list of non-negotiable demands."
Britain: "Fine. We have China and the United States on speed dial."
I’m not familiar with all the details but would guess Obama, democrats and his republican buddies would like to use the TPP to further punish the uk. Look for a big push soon?
No; those do nothing of the sort. All that does is increase both costs and government control, and hinder competition actually; with respect to automobiles, it forces uniformity and makes uniqueness in terms of stying and functionality far too expensive.
As an example of an innocuous or even good regulation is having bumpers on cars the same height off the ground. Another is having the distance between the rails of a railroad to be the same distance across. A third is to have the number of turns on a bolt of a certain size equal the number of turns on the nut. Such things as these facilitate trade and competition across national borders. …
“there are a lot of elites that hold the view that the UK was holding their agenda back, and now they not only get to push it forward but to bully the UK at the same time.”
I really doubt bullying will work. London is the No. 2 financial center in the world. The EU fascists are in big trouble and are blowing hot air by trying to bully the UK.
While it is important for the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland to have a common railroad gauge, which for historical reasons, is 5’ 3”, it is not so important that the island share a common gauge with the rest of the world.
As for the Iberian peninsula, it would be good for Spain and Portugal to get with the program. I note that gauge of new high-speed track on the peninsula is standard gauge (4’ 8 1/2”). So, maybe they are getting with the program.
The usual reason for odd ball RR gauge is to prevent invasion. Russia and Spain were concerning, with some reason, that Napoleon would use their RR system to invade the country. Without a government decree, the U.S. overcome a confusion of gauges to adopt standard gauge via a private decision in, I think, 1884.
But, hey, let everyone manufacture their own unique bolts with turns different from those on nuts, drive cars variously on the left or the right hand side of the road, enter into contracts with words whose meanings are found in everybody’s freely-chosen dictionary, because anything else would be communism and one-world government!
Government regulation is not needed for manufacturers to think of manufacturing uniform bolts and nuts for various purposes. Private industry really can think of such things for themselves, based on market demand. Such things did exist before the government camels started sticking their noses under the tents.
But, hey, let everyone manufacture their own unique bolts with turns different from those on nuts, drive cars variously on the left or the right hand side of the road, enter into contracts with words whose meanings are found in everybody’s freely-chosen dictionary, because anything else would be communism and one-world government
These are not freedoms at all.
While countries have a duty to help the most oppressed seeking asylum, they also have a right to establish immigration policies based on the country's need and their ability to incorporate asylum seekers.
There is no right that allows unelected officials (or elected ones, for that matter) to violate these principles of sovereign nations ... None!
Let’s see, we’ve meandered, haven’t we, from me saying it used to be that many EU regulations are innocuous and some are good, so that sovereign nations such as Norway and Switzerland routinely adopted them by unanimous vote or on a voice vote. But, nowadays, the constant flow of new regulations has become annoying if not down right intrusive.
At this point, you are insisting that everybody has the right to choose which side of the road to drive on. You seem to be simply contrary to whatever I say about RR gauge on the island of Ireland. I say, since it’s an island, what’s important is that it’s the same gauge throughout, not really whether it ties in with gauge elsewhere. To this you say, what if they build a tunnel. Shouldn’t they have standard gauge if they have a tunnel? Even forbid it’s a double track tunnel because your anarchist train companies will each decide whether to run their trains on the left or the right side.
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