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Warning: Washington Post polls are junk surveys with major sampling bias issues
6-26-16 | Lowly sidebar mod

Posted on 06/26/2016 3:12:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

The Washington Post is actively trying to demoralize the Republican base to depress fundraising and recruitment and ultimately to suppress turn out in November by promoting their false narrative that Trump has no chance. Think about that before posting the same poll over and over from different sources. You know who you are.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; deceit; polls; washingtonpost; wp
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To: euram

“All these polls showing Clinton with a huge lead are bogus, and are meant solely to suppress republican votes, we see this in every presidential election at least for the last 30 years or more. It’s all part of the dems/media psychological warfare.”

Special Report
How Carter Beat Reagan
Washington Post admits polling was “in-kind contribution”; New York Times agenda polling.
By Jeffrey Lord – 9.25.12
Dick Morris is right.

Here’s something Dick Morris doesn’t mention. And he’s charitable.

Remember when Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980?

That’s right. Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980.

In a series of nine stories in 1980 on “Crucial States” — battleground states as they are known today — the New York Times repeatedly told readers then-President Carter was in a close and decidedly winnable race with the former California governor. And used polling data from the New York Times/CBS polls to back up its stories.

Four years later, it was the Washington Post that played the polling game — and when called out by Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins a famous Post executive called his paper’s polling an “in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.” Mondale, of course, being then-President Reagan’s 1984 opponent and Carter’s vice president.

All of which will doubtless serve as a reminder of just how blatantly polling data is manipulated by liberal media — used essentially as a political weapon to support the liberal of the moment, whether Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984 — or Barack Obama in 2012.
First the Times in 1980 and how it played the polling game.
The states involved, and the datelines for the stories:
· California — October 6, 1980
· Texas — October 8, 1980
· Pennsylvania — October 10, 1980
· Illinois — October 13, 1980
· Ohio — October 15, 1980
· New Jersey — October 16, 1980
· Florida — October 19, 1980
· New York — October 21, 1980
· Michigan — October 23, 1980

Of these nine only one was depicted as “likely” for Reagan: Reagan’s own California. A second — New Jersey — was presented as a state that “appears to support” Reagan.

The Times led their readers to believe that each of the remaining seven states were “close” — or the Times had Carter leading outright.

In every single case the Times was proven grossly wrong on election day. Reagan in fact carried every one of the nine states.

Here is how the Times played the game with the seven of the nine states in question.

• Texas: In a story datelined October 8 from Houston, the Times headlined:

Texas Looming as a Close Battle Between President and Reagan
The Reagan-Carter race in Texas, the paper claimed, had “suddenly tightened and now shapes up as a close, bruising battle to the finish.” The paper said “a New York Times/CBS News Poll, the second of seven in crucial big states, showing the Reagan-Carter race now a virtual dead heat despite a string of earlier polls on both sides that had shown the state leaning toward Mr. Reagan.”

The narrative? It was like the famous scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy and her friends stare in astonishment as dog Toto pulls back the curtain in the wizard’s lair to reveal merely a man bellowing through a microphone. Causing the startled “wizard” caught in the act to frantically start yelling, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” In the case of the Times in its look at Texas in October of 1980 the paper dismissed “a string of earlier polls on both sides” that repeatedly showed Texas going for Reagan. Instead, the Times presented this data:

A survey of 1,050 registered voters, weighted to form a probable electorate, gave Mr. Carter 40 percent support, Mr. Reagan 39 percent, John. B. Anderson, the independent candidate, 3 percent, and 18 percent were undecided. The survey, conducted by telephone from Oct. 1 to Oct. 6, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

In other words, the race in Texas is close, assures the Times, with Carter actually in the lead.

What happened? Reagan beat Carter by over 13 points. It wasn’t even close to close.

http://spectator.org/articles/34732/how-carter-beat-reagan


61 posted on 06/27/2016 8:40:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We will begin to read about the HCexit, Ryexit, MCexit, OBexit, GOPexit, NATOexit to go with Brexit!)
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To: Albion Wilde
Just an FYI, I won't be posting as much on here as I used to.

I got into a fight with a holocaust denier (no other words to describe him) and that got me suspended from here. I am back but my posts are now reviewed and take forever to post and I am more of a rapid fire kind of guy. I am on twitter and I will do my best for Trump on there and in other social media with occasional postings on freerepublic.

62 posted on 06/27/2016 9:22:11 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator

I am sorry to hear it. Please don’t let it get you down or drive you away — hang in there. Did you ask how long the post-reviewing would go on? Not long, I hope.


63 posted on 06/27/2016 12:39:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: Albion Wilde

It’s cool but it slows me down so my enthusiasm for posting edgy stuff here wavers.


64 posted on 06/27/2016 1:26:35 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator

Well, there is a certain art to edginess on FR. It’s a family site.

Onward and upward!


65 posted on 06/27/2016 5:30:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: Albion Wilde

I didn’t mean edgy as dirty I meant using tweets, etc not waiting for mainstream media to write an article and then comment after the fact.


66 posted on 06/27/2016 7:14:37 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Grampa Dave

Welcome!


67 posted on 06/28/2016 4:19:47 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Welcome!


68 posted on 06/28/2016 4:20:04 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Genoa

30 point lead, in fact. After the conventions. And like today, back then the spineless Republican establishment didn’t think Reagan had a chance against a sitting president. That Howard Baker or George HW Bush would’ve been the safer pick. Man, how history repeats itself!


70 posted on 06/28/2016 4:25:58 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

WP polls: Bezos’ minions making a marketing pitch, with forecasted ‘profits.’


71 posted on 06/28/2016 4:26:18 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Bingo.


72 posted on 06/28/2016 4:26:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Grampa Dave

Excellent compilation.


73 posted on 06/28/2016 4:34:25 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: combat_boots; Trumpinator

See #61


74 posted on 06/28/2016 4:35:58 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: HarleyLady27
...remember Trump took Washington Post credentials away...

Indeed he did and imo he should stress this BS WPost pols as prima facie evidence that the banning was, and continues to be, warranted.

75 posted on 06/28/2016 4:54:25 AM PDT by citizen (ISIS: They put the IS in IS-lam.)
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To: Sidebar Moderator; combat_boots

Let us not get complacent. We can lose. We have to fight non stop and motivate people to vote for Trump all day every day.


76 posted on 06/28/2016 6:16:18 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator

Seconded.


77 posted on 06/28/2016 6:17:59 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Thanks.

Many of us, who remember how the mediots via their so called polls, lied and told us that Reagan would not/could not win.

We didn’t listen and voted in mass to get rid of Carter.

That personal history of the lying mediots, makes us very wary of the Concerned Trolls with pushing the lies of today’s mediots.

Thanks for your stance re the Compost and its push polls posing as real polls.


78 posted on 06/28/2016 7:04:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We will begin to read about the HCexit, Ryexit, MCexit, OBexit, GOPexit, NATOexit to go with Brexit!)
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To: Grampa Dave

My pleasure, sir.


79 posted on 06/28/2016 7:07:06 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Envisioning
Polls are almost worthless. I say no posting of polls.......

Here, here.

80 posted on 06/28/2016 7:13:46 AM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("It's always good to be underestimated." ~Donald Trump)
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