Posted on 06/24/2016 7:01:12 AM PDT by simpson96
DALLAS Fire officials say more than 30 people attending a Tony Robbins event in Dallas have been treated for burns after the motivational speaker encouraged them to walk on hot coals.
Dallas Fire-Rescue spokesman Jason Evans says five people were taken to a hospital Thursday night and that emergency personnel treated the others at the scene for burns to their feet and lower extremities.
The hot coals were spread outside the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center as part of a Robbins seminar called "Unleash the Power Within." The event continues through Sunday.
Representatives for Robbins didn't immediately return messages Friday.
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How many times did I hear, If your friends jump off a cliff, will you?
It doesn’t really have to do with mind. I have not only walked on hot coals a number of times, I have also made the fire and the coal bed about 5 times.
My dad was a self actualized hippie, and he was always searching for ways to make money off of other poor souls, so eventually he got into fire walking motivational seminars.
He got me to help him by being his fire tender. Our friend, Greg, the former intravenous coke user was the wood cutter.
The secret to it is to use a mixture of wood. about 40% oak 60% cedar. If you used all oak, feet would burn.
SO you build up a nice big fire and let that sucker burn a long, long time while the motivational seminar is underway. After the fire is mostly burned, meaning long after there are no large chunks of wood left, you spread out the coals into about a 4 x 10-12 foot bed, and let that simmer a bit too.
By the time, people are ready to walk on it, even though it is still visibly read, it is not hot enough to cause any sort of significant injury. It feels like walking on warm popcorn really.
One time, I don’t know why, I broke up the fire too early. Spread it out too early, and my dad walked on it too early.
You could tell as soon as he hit it, it was frickin’ hot. His right leg buckled as he walked in, but he corrected himself, and completed the walk.
I went next, and that coal bed was damn hot. Much hotter than any of the others I’d done. So I did get a bit of a hot spot type of burn on one of my feet, but still not even a blister.
No one else that walked on that bed got hurt as far as I know.
Yep.
“Dont bother responding, because Im not reading it.”
Lol. In your world you’re happiest when you only hear what you agree with.
Yep. If someone “powerful” tells you to ram your head into
a wall . . THAT’S THE TICKET!!! Do it! Do it! \s
By the pants, maybe...MAYBE. They hold coffee at 180-185 at my work and splatters happen often...it’ll wake yer ass up to be sure but the only time I ever got properly BURNED had to do with a macho stunt with water drawn off the coffee machines + a plastic jug that was thinner than expected and melted onto my hand. Hot water by itself loses heat quickly when surrounded by open air.
Yes, I, too, have splashed hot coffee on myself many times, right out of the pot, or cup. I've sloughed off enough tongue skin to ruin my ability to taste things for a week or so, as well. I've even spilled hot coffee in my lap before, and it cooled rapidly to the point I was cold, rather than burned.
I’ve got faith but I am also not stupid.
about 7,000 people walked across the coals and only five “requested any examination beyond what was readily available on site.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewalking
I think this is done to exhibit dramatic proof of the power of thought and belief to limit us or liberate us - but I don’t think it proves anything. A person observing or performing it will eventually come to see it as the ‘parlor trick’ that you seem to be saying it is.
I believe there is enormous power in our habitual thoughts, fears, attitudes, emotions; and that learning to control and direct them can and does change lives. The result is then substantial, not a ‘trick’.
Things like this are an embarrassment to serious writers on subjects like New Thought, Religious Science, positive thinking, etc.
-JT
Oh yeah, that is exactly what it is. The premise of my dad’s seminar was that if you can walk on fire, then you can do anything.
If you can will your mind to overcome the innate fear of fire, then you can overcome any fear, because nothing is more fearsome than fire.
In general way, I suppose it’s sort of true, but in practice, it’s not.
I have walked on hot coals many times, doing about 5-10 bed crossing over about 6-8 events in my life. These were around the ages of 16-22 or so that I did this.
And yeah, it does take some will power to take those steps, and I have to say it’s a fun time, but despite my doing this, I have encountered much greater fears in other situations that I cannot simply overcome as easily as I made myself walk into those coals.
For example, I was far, far more frightened while suffering a heart attack then facing a bed of coals. I was scared sh*tless during that. I cried like a little girl.
In fact, it had a long lasting effect causing panic attacks for at least a little while. I never even believed panic attacks existed, but they do. Instantaneous, irrational fear of imminent sudden death.
Even though I was given a prescription of valium to deal with this, I did not want to become addicted to benzos, which I have been before, so I learned to control the panic attacks with exercise instead. I figured if I can walk X amount of miles up and down these hills outside, then it’s not likely that I am about to experience a second and this time fatal heart attack.
So eventually those type of panic attacks disappeared, and they were replaced by well what if I journey too far from any potential help and then suffer a heart attack, so I had to overcome that new fear too, otherwise be a prisoner of my own mind.
We all have different scenarios and circumstances that we can become fearful of, and there is no magic bullet to make them all disappear. Each fear has to be conquered and mastered individually, and some people are going to have that ability naturally, others will struggle, and others will fail.
One bit of wisdom that does seem to hold true though is whatever does not kill you makes you stronger.
I almost drowned once, off the Outer Banks on the day after a powerful storm. It wasn’t a rip current, but a powerful backwash from huge waves (it was my first visit there, and I blithely and foolishly went out after a storm expecting it to be like the more Mid-Altantic beaches where I had swum before. On top of that, I wasn’t in the best shape, having spent a long year caring for a dying relative, dealing with a lot of stress and getting little healthy exercise - and yes, panic attacks are real. I and others whom I know have experienced them, especially after a long, stressful experience.)
A few kids in our party were near me in the water - we were perhaps 50 yards offshore; and suddenly the waves began coming so powerfully that I couldn’t cope - as soon as I recovered from one, another was on top of me, and I was in a kind of ‘valley’ where there was no purchase on the sand.
I looked up to the beach, and saw my friends sitting and laughing, totally unaware - Heaven was up there, and hell where I was ;-)
I remember suddenly becoming very calm, and thinking, “is this how my life is going to end?” I really thought that there was no way I could get back to shore - and there’s a very insidious feeling of resignation that creeps over one when drowning is perceived as imminent - at least it was so in my case.
But then I remembered the kids, and knew that I had to get them back in, because the water was getting too rough. As soon as I had that thought, I had renewed strength; I yelled at the kids to swim back in, and we all made it back to where we could stand, and then have some purchase to fight the waves back to shore.
The funny thing is that the kids, who were maybe 10 yards away from me, weren’t having the trouble I was; but I feared for them, and had to get them back; and that thought alone - a thought, a goal - got me back to Myself.
Some people would say that it was ‘adrenaline’, or some other emergency physical response; but Thought - some kind of Thought - always has to precede.
Thinking is the most consequential thing that any of us do. Our lives are decided by the thoughts we think and the ingrained attitudes that we allow those thoughts to create. We need to learn how to think properly, to deal with all the difficulties in life. And when we realize that our thoughts are not helping us, we need to figure out how to change the thoughts.
A lot of modern, popular writers on ‘positive thinking’ try to make it sound easy. The fact is that it is *simple*, but not easy at all. Just as you have found, we must deal with one negative or fearful issue at a time, and there will then be another; but with each conquest, it does become easier. It becomes a Habit.
As the poem ‘Invictus’ states, we really are the ‘masters of our fates and captains of our souls’.
-JT
Ok, so there’s these hot coals, and a lot of people ready to walk on them.
First one or two go, and they shriek in pain and fall to the sides, screaming.
Second two or three go, same results.
WHATEVER POSSESSED THE REMAINING 27 TO PROCEED???!?
....except bears. Bears will effing kill you.
Speaking of bears, check this guy out, Laz.
Some people on this earth seem to have done things that very few others if any ever even considered.
I've no idea how any of this is even possible.
Thanks Mad Dawgg,
Sounds like he helped you,
Also, I write and record guitar myself jut for fun, have had several home studios but nothing special beyond a few old Teac reel to reel mixers and these days just garage band with apogee tools,
My thoughts exactly. Doesn’t sound like a very bright group.
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