Polls were tight as drum down the stretch actually, which surprised me, initially I thought there was no way this would pass. For a while it looked like leave had the edge. But after that false flag murder, I was also pessimistic. Bookmakers, it seemed, never thought it would pass for a minute. What’s interesting is Wales voted leave, and a majority of Labour-controlled local councils in England. Labour voters were very divided over this, in contrast to party officials. All the highest areas of unemployment (outside of Scotland) voted leave.
Their certainly are benefits to staying in the EU, trade and travel are easier. But I have to say the negatives seem to far outweigh any positives. There are several UK freepers here and I believe they unanimously feel strongly that leaving is necessary to have any chance of Britian remaining a free country, just imagine if socialists in Canada and Mexico got a say in how we run the US. Possible Turkish entry into the EU was a prime concern. The EU seems more likely than not to fail entirely in the long term. Drawbacks to leaving were vastly blown out of proportion as an election tactic. I hate to agree with something Boris Johnson said (London has a new Muslim Labour Mayor BTW) but calling it a “noble idea” that isn’t working is spot on. If there were no socialist idiots and throngs of third worlders looking to invade the west, I’m sure it would work great, but there are, so it doesn’t.
Of course Obama was for them staying, the entire global elite was, there was no chance it would be otherwise.
I have never seen such whining as over this result. So many tweets from people saying they’re ashamed to be British, “damn you old people, 70% of us under 25 idiots wanted to stay” (a LOT of that, they sound ready to execute anyone over 50) whine, whine, whine, “give us a revote”, “London should secede from England”, ashen faced Tony Blair looking he just lost a child or something. These people are drunk on their own koolaid.
just imagine if socialists in Canada and Mexico got a say in how we run the US -- incorrect analogy. The UK has a higher percentage of people in the public sector (26%) compared to Germany (15%) or France. The UK has the free-market and with Germany's and E Europe's support was pushing it against France (the French constantly complaining about the Anglo-Saxon system taking over should give a clue to the British clout)
Turkey won’t join the EU — Greece and Cyprus have veto rights and even then, Erdogan doesn’t want to join the EU.