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To: DiogenesLamp; PeaRidge; rustbucket
The Morrill Tariff of 1861 was a protectionist tariff bill passed by the U.S. Congress in early 1861. The main purpose was the protection and encouragement of a cadre of northeastern manufacturing interests.

Not surprisingly, 87% of the northern congressmen supported the bill and 87.5% of southern congressmen opposed it.

As historian Frank Tausig observes, the schedule of the Morrill Tariff and its two successor bills were retained long after the end of the war. Whereas tariffs were around rates of 18–20% on average in the 1820s, the Morrill Tariff raised the average rates to 36.2%, and it was subsequently revised upward in 1864, and the average rate stood at 47.56%.

The Real Henry Clay: The Corrupt American Architect of Mercantilism and Protectionism

OUT-STANDING research and historical indictments! The Morrell Tax was legalized extortion. The voting of northern Congressmen vs. Southern Congressmen says volumes.

DL, for whatever reason, FR's pro-Lincoln historical revisionists absolutely ignore "The-Game-Within-The-Game" within historical context. Even when you do the math for them.

Why won't they admit that they just may just be wrong about the motivation and reason for Lincoln and his cadre of northern/Yankee industrialists facilitating the un-necessary brutality of Civil War? My guess is "Santa Claus Syndrome".

The more facts unearthed and revealed, the more evil and compromised Lincoln becomes. Sure -- he could be extremely articulate, compassionate and even sincere at time as we've seen. But I truly wonder whether he was in a proper state of mind.

Was he greedy? Was it possible that he'd found himself "compromised" thus blackmailed in certain respects? WAS Abraham Lincoln bi-polar? I think we can all agree he as a tortured soul.

"a cadre of northeastern manufacturing interests" which we have now come to know as the "Globalist Elite." The Pullers of the GOPe strings.

No question that there's been a line of secession maintained by these very same original "Elites"; They are indeed the ancestral root of today's GOPe pro-illegal immigration/cheap labor express and NAFTA/TPP/UN supporters.

750 posted on 07/22/2016 9:21:01 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow
Why won't they admit that they just may just be wrong about the motivation and reason for Lincoln and his cadre of northern/Yankee industrialists facilitating the un-necessary brutality of Civil War? My guess is "Santa Claus Syndrome".

More like it is "My side cannot be the bad guys." Syndrome. Nobody wants to believe that they or their ancestors supported something brutal and evil without a just cause for doing it.

The economic and political information that keeps being brought out is ripping the mask off of this illusion.

Yes, the Union fought the war over money. No, they didn't fight it over slavery, and they only cared about "Preserving the Union" for the sole purpose of preventing economic loss and competition.

Had the Southern States not been an economic threat to them, they wouldn't have given a sh*t about their secession.

No question that there's been a line of secession maintained by these very same original "Elites"; They are indeed the ancestral root of today's GOPe pro-illegal immigration/cheap labor express and NAFTA/TPP/UN supporters.

I believe you mean "succession", not "secession." :)

And yes. New York is the "Empire State" for a reason. And they are in favor of cheap labor and slave labor for a reason.

751 posted on 07/22/2016 10:43:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: HangUpNow; DiogenesLamp; rockrr
DiogenesLamp: "Not surprisingly, 87% of the northern congressmen supported the bill and 87.5% of southern congressmen opposed it."

Actually, the House vote in May 1860 was more complicated than that, since 56 Congressmen abstained, mostly Democrats and enough to have defeated Morrill, if there were passion motivating them to vote.
But the anti-Morrill Congressmen did not care enough to get many of their fellow Democrats to vote against it.

HangUpNow: "The Morrell Tax was legalized extortion.
The voting of northern Congressmen vs. Southern Congressmen says volumes."

Total rubbish about "legalized extortion" since the Morrill tariff was no higher than some others passed in previous years.
The real problem was anti-Morrill Democrats didn't care enough about it to get all their fellow Democrats to vote against it.

DiogenesLamp: "Morrill Tariff raised the average rates to 36.2%, and it was subsequently revised upward in 1864, and the average rate stood at 47.56%."

Those numbers resulted from Civil War, not from the original Morrill bill.

HangUpNow: "Why won't they admit that they just may just be wrong about the motivation and reason for Lincoln and his cadre of northern/Yankee industrialists facilitating the un-necessary brutality of Civil War?
My guess is "Santa Claus Syndrome"."

More rubbish.
The war's "un-necessarily brutality" resulted from the Confederacy's refusal to quit fighting on any terms other than "unconditional surrender".

HangUpNow: "No question that there's been a line of secession maintained by these very same original "Elites";
They are indeed the ancestral root of today's GOPe pro-illegal immigration/cheap labor express and NAFTA/TPP/UN supporters."

You mean Democrats, of course, not Republicans.
The Whig-Republican program called for higher tariffs to protect US employers and high-paying US jobs.
It was Democrats who wanted cheap imports from foreign countries, to h*ll with US workers.

785 posted on 07/23/2016 3:56:55 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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