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To: HangUpNow
Why won't they admit that they just may just be wrong about the motivation and reason for Lincoln and his cadre of northern/Yankee industrialists facilitating the un-necessary brutality of Civil War? My guess is "Santa Claus Syndrome".

More like it is "My side cannot be the bad guys." Syndrome. Nobody wants to believe that they or their ancestors supported something brutal and evil without a just cause for doing it.

The economic and political information that keeps being brought out is ripping the mask off of this illusion.

Yes, the Union fought the war over money. No, they didn't fight it over slavery, and they only cared about "Preserving the Union" for the sole purpose of preventing economic loss and competition.

Had the Southern States not been an economic threat to them, they wouldn't have given a sh*t about their secession.

No question that there's been a line of secession maintained by these very same original "Elites"; They are indeed the ancestral root of today's GOPe pro-illegal immigration/cheap labor express and NAFTA/TPP/UN supporters.

I believe you mean "succession", not "secession." :)

And yes. New York is the "Empire State" for a reason. And they are in favor of cheap labor and slave labor for a reason.

751 posted on 07/22/2016 10:43:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
More like it is "My side cannot be the bad guys." Syndrome. Nobody wants to believe that they or their ancestors supported something brutal and evil without a just cause for doing it.

The economic and political information that keeps being brought out is ripping the mask off of this illusion.

Yes sir. I understand the mentality; No one wants to believe the worst of man or men they regarded so very highly. Same phenomena occurred with respect to George W. Bush by many who were eventually compelled to re-assess their previous high regard for him. Hidden truths were 15 years late in exposing him and that mask of illusion foisted upon us.

I commend and thank you for your determined diligence and focus on the specific historical facts and truth of the matter. The evidence is irrefutable. ANY one who put Lincoln up on America's Mount Olympus (never mind Mount Rushmore) can only be viscerally disappointed and hurt by the factual dot-connecting historical revelations.

Yes, the Union fought the war over money. No, they didn't fight it over slavery, and they only cared about "Preserving the Union" for the sole purpose of preventing economic loss and competition.

Had the Southern States not been an economic threat to them, they wouldn't have given a sh*t about their secession.

Bears further emphasis AND repeating. "Official" historians are not about to stir that pot. Bottom Line: Lincoln endorsed cold-blooded tyranny and used federal troops to enforce it.

And yes of course: "succession." ;-)

752 posted on 07/22/2016 11:08:39 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: DiogenesLamp; HangUpNow
DiogenesLamp: "Yes, the Union fought the war over money.
No, they didn't fight it over slavery, and they only cared about "Preserving the Union" for the sole purpose of preventing economic loss and competition.

Had the Southern States not been an economic threat to them, they wouldn't have given a sh*t about their secession."

Spoken like a true-believer Marxist & progressive Democrat.
Of course it's total rubbish.
It's like saying Roosevelt fought WWII "over money".
Ridiculous.

786 posted on 07/23/2016 4:01:16 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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