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Another example of the canards from the neighborhood apologist.

You said: “Near as I can tell, none of those are legit, certainly not important enough to be recorded in histories of newspapers.”

OK, here we go.

The Philadelphia Press

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Philadelphia Press (or The Press) is a defunct newspaper that was published from August 1, 1857 to October 1, 1920.

The paper was founded by John Weiss Forney. Charles Emory Smith was editor and owned a stake in the paper from 1880 until his death in 1908. In 1920, it was purchased by Cyrus Curtis, who merged the Press into the Public Ledger.

Before being published in book form, Stephen Crane's 1895 novel The Red Badge of Courage was serialized in The Philadelphia Press in 1894

Notable contributors

Thomas Morris Chester, African-American Civil War correspondent
Benjamin De Casseres, proofreader, theatrical critic and editorial writer
Elisha Jay Edwards, investigative journalist
John Russell Young, chief Civil War correspondent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philadelphia_Press

NEW ORLEANS DAILY CRESCENT: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015378/

Union Democrat

https://www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/teaching-resources/sixteen-months-to-sumter/newspaper-index/manchester-union-democrat/let-them-go

I hate to use the term lying, so I won't, but you continually make things up.

Remember your "Harriot (sic) Lane" debacle from last year? You went on and on for days in spite of irrefutable proof of you ignorance. Just can't man up and tell the truth?

I would think even rockrr and the rest would get fed up at some point.

I would think even rockrr and the rest would get fed up at some point.

Are you kidding? They are cheer leading his stream of obfuscation. "Way to Go BroJoeK!" "You really showed them with that message!"

I've been thinking that this business of using words to explain things to them is a waste of time. It lets the subject get diverted to side issues all too easily. I think pictures, especially moving pictures would make the point clearer.

Unfortunately it's a lot of work to create the sort of moving pictures I have in mind, but I'm thinking i'll have to knuckle down and do it anyways one of these days.

PeaRidge: "I hate to use the term lying, so I won't, but you continually make things up."

FRiend, you've posted quotes from at least half a dozen different alleged newspapers.
Of all those, I can fully verify only one-third of one quote -- from the New Orleans Daily Crescent.
Two thirds of that quote are not to be found in the paper you claim it came from.

In two other quotes I can verify the paper itself existed -- the Philadelphia Press and the Boston Evening Transcript.
However, in neither case can I confirm the quotes themselves.

Other papers, including the Chicago Daily Times and Manchester Union Democrat, I can find no record of.

So I give you full credit for one-third of one quote.
All the others are dubious at best.

PeaRidge: "Manchester Union Democrat"

Noted, but I still can find no record of a Manchester Union Democrat listed anywhere in 1861.

And even if we assume it's legit, look how the article starts:

"Some of our Republican friends affect to be very indifferent to the secession of the Southern states. 'Let them go—we can get along very well without them.' "

Notice it's Republicans who say "let them go" and here Democrats who say, "No you can't".
Also, notice there is no hint in this article about using force to keep the South submissive -- just the opposite.

How does this piece say to "keep the South"?

"Simply recognize in the neighborhood of states those principles of equity and courtesy which we would scorn to violate in our social relations at home—that is all.
Let New Hampshire treat Virginia as we should treat our neighbors.
Do we vilify them, watch for chances to annoy them, clear up to the line of the law, and sometimes beyond it, and encourage hostile raids against them?
Is that good neighborhood?
Then, let not one state practice it against another."

In short, PeaRidge & DiogenesLamp, your argument here was always a very leaky boat, but it is now completely blown to smithereens and out of the water by your own quote!

So go back to real school guys and learn some actual history.
Put away your childish pro-Confederate propaganda.
It's worthless.