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House drops Confederate Flag ban for veterans cemeteries
politico.com ^ | 6/23/16 | Matthew Nussbaum

Posted on 06/23/2016 2:04:08 PM PDT by ColdOne

A measure to bar confederate flags from cemeteries run by the Department of Veterans Affairs was removed from legislation passed by the House early Thursday.

The flag ban was added to the VA funding bill in May by a vote of 265-159, with most Republicans voting against the ban. But Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) both supported the measure. Ryan was commended for allowing a vote on the controversial measure, but has since limited what amendments can be offered on the floor.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 114th; confederateflag; dixie; dixieflag; nevermind; va
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1 posted on 06/23/2016 2:04:08 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

This thing really hacks me off.

There are a lot of men who had to fight. They had no choice. And they died.

It dishonors their service.


2 posted on 06/23/2016 2:11:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

It really hacks me off too. Hubby side of family real hacked. They are from the south.


3 posted on 06/23/2016 2:14:03 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: ColdOne

Remind me again which party Paul Ryan is in?


4 posted on 06/23/2016 2:15:47 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: wardaddy; Pelham; l8pilot; rustbucket; stainlessbanner; PeaRidge; 4CJ

Ping


5 posted on 06/23/2016 2:16:36 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade ( America's Party! Tom Hoefling/Steve Schulin 2016)
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To: ColdOne

‘The flag ban was added to the VA funding bill in May by a vote of 265-159, with most Republicans voting against the ban. But Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) both supported the measure. ‘


6 posted on 06/23/2016 2:20:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Obama and his Islam infested administration)
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To: ColdOne
But Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) both supported the measure.

POS SCUMBAGS have no place eliminating the history of the republic.

HOORAY most republicans voting against the ban. Some of these criminals finally got something right?

Wonders never cease.

7 posted on 06/23/2016 2:24:11 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ColdOne
“Let us be certain that our children know that the war between the States was not a contest for the preservation of slavery, as some would have them to believe, but that it was a great struggle for the maintenance of Constitutional rights, and that men who fought were warriors tried and true, Who bore the flags of a Nation's trust, And fell in a cause, though lost, still just, And died for me and you.”
J. Taylor Ellyson (1847-1919), Mayor of Richmond and Lt. Governor of Virginia.
8 posted on 06/23/2016 2:33:53 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

Great post! Thank you for posting!


9 posted on 06/23/2016 2:36:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: ColdOne

It needs to be better understood that Lyin’ Ryan, like the Boner before him, were both from majority Marxocrat districts. That is why these scumbags were voted in as House Leaders, because they could “reach across the aisle” and advance Marxocrat policies. Since they were both RINOs, the Marxocrats, too, would vote for them as House Leaders. The sick thing is that they both broke a tradition that required House Leaders of either party to not put bills up for a floor vote that were not supported by a majority of their respective party members. The breaking of this traditional practice is how the RINO leadership repeatedly votes against their own party for bills that Republicans, allegedly, do not want yet see implemented time and again by enabling the minority Marxocrats to prevail with political cover.


10 posted on 06/23/2016 2:39:03 PM PDT by DrPretorius
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To: All

Ryan strikes again.


11 posted on 06/23/2016 2:39:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ColdOne
Good news. It's the place that showing the flag makes sense.

At our decoration day last month, while looking at my Great Grandfather's monument we could also see the stone of his younger brother who was killed in October of 1861. He of course was not buried in a veterans cemetery.

12 posted on 06/23/2016 2:50:16 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - vote Trump 2016)
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To: RummyChick
Ryan supported the ban??

Banning the Confederate flag and attempts to erase one of the most significant aspects of US history is no different from ISIS demolishing archaeological treasures.

Baseball and the Blues (and thus Rock and Roll) would not have begun without the Civil War. Very few blacks are 100% African. A significant percentage have ancestors who fought in the Civil War and ancestors who were slave holders. etc

This is the first good thing we've heard from the HOR for awhile. A handful of members have been true to their principles, for sure. But most of them have been political eunuchs since the disaster of giving Ryan so much power to backstab them.

13 posted on 06/23/2016 2:58:29 PM PDT by grania
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To: PeaRidge

Racial chattel slavery (a variety of servitude that was never endorsed by God in the bible) was embroiled in the interests of the South, but also, if to a lesser degree, in the interests of the North.

God did not look kindly on this, and a worse curse was on Dixie than on the North.

However the Dixie flag could mean a number of things, not just antebellum attitudes about slavery. Because of allergy to some possible usages of a word or a symbol, does not mean we must frown on all such usages.


14 posted on 06/23/2016 3:00:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ColdOne; rockrr
It would help to know what cemeteries are actually involved. Many "National Cemeteries" were either begun for Union soldiers of the Civil War or founded long after that war ended. Those in the North don't have any Confederate burials. Neither do most of those in the South.

It's possible that National Cemeteries in the south started before the Civil War do have both Union and Confederate dead interred. It's like that with the Chalmette National Cemetery, which was begun after the War of 1812. Two Confederates are buried at Shiloh National Cemetery.

The DVA also has relations with state cemeteries. Those in the South may have Confederate soldier burials. Whether state or federal regulations apply there, I don't know. Most likely federal, given the way things are.

15 posted on 06/23/2016 3:17:10 PM PDT by x
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To: PeaRidge

It certainly was about preserving slavery damn it!


16 posted on 06/23/2016 3:25:37 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa
It is important to some that we take down the Confederate flags, and put them away for good. What about taking down all flags that remind anyone in this country of racism?

What about the flags that flew over the hundreds of slave ships leaving Africa full of human cargo in the 1700s? Which ones were those?

What flag was flying over the slave auction center in Philadelphia in 1805?

What flags were flying over the ships from Rhode Island that were trading guns and rum for slaves in 1806?

Which flag was in the chamber of the Supreme Court in 1857 when it declared Dred Scott still legally a slave?

Which flag flew over the U.S. Capitol as newly inaugurated President Abraham Lincoln endorsed the Corwin Amendment to the Constitution that ordered permanent legalization of slavery in 1861?

Which flag could be seen by the slaves locked up in the pens in Washington in 1861 as General Irwin McDowell marched union troops into Virginia.

And which flag flew over the Supreme Court of the United States in 1898 when Jim Crow laws were ruled legal?

Maybe the question is not where to begin, but where to end this foolishness.

17 posted on 06/23/2016 3:28:50 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

What flag was attacked on Dec. 7, 1941? What flag was raised on Mt. Surabachi on Feb. 19, 1945? What flag was attacked on 9/11 and what flag are our young men and women currently serving under, The Stars And Bars or The Stars And Stripes?


18 posted on 06/23/2016 3:39:11 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

Which flag was the last to fly over SLAVE STATES? The Stars And Bars or The Stars And Stripes?

Five Slave States stayed in the UNION. Most did not end SLAVERY till EIGHT MONTHS after the end of the Civil War with the passage of the 13th Amendment.


19 posted on 06/23/2016 4:49:37 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: jmacusa
You really want to go there?

1968 South Vietnam


20 posted on 06/23/2016 4:50:11 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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