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The Supreme Court Just Created a Full-Blown Police State
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| Jun 21, 2016
| Martin Armstrong
Posted on 06/22/2016 11:37:57 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra
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To: Edward.Fish
the same argument is made concerning illegal aliens.
The illegal alien is still committing a criminal act by being in the country.
The person with the warrant still has a warrant that MUST be acted upon.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:02:54 PM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: TangoLimaSierra
Yes, I have.
Nothing to it. The perp was a wanted man, a fugitive. He was arrested, and searched incident to the arrest. Evidence of new criminal activity was found. He was charged with a new crime and convicted.
What’s he problem?
To: longtermmemmory
the same argument is made concerning illegal aliens.
The illegal alien is still committing a criminal act by being in the country. And there's often a lot of probable cause for stopping such people.
Of course that requires both the use of politically-incorrect "profiling", and the admission that the current system is designed to ignore them.
The person with the warrant still has a warrant that MUST be acted upon.
Ah, so ignorance of the warrant is no excuse, just like ignorance of the law is no excuse?
Sounds like you want everyone, police and population, to be omniscient.
To: Edward.Fish
No, read the facts and the opinion again. Thomas said, and the facts of the case show, that it was AFTER the discovery of an outstanding arrest warrant, THEN they conducted a “search incident to arrest” (SIA)- perfectly valid. As Thomas said, the search was attenuated from the unreasonable stop because the SIA was conducted as part of a valid arrest pursuant to an arrest warrant.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:10:40 PM PDT
by
Jim W N
To: longtermmemmory
'If everything relating to the stop is excluded he would have to still be arrested. Inventory searches are routine for various common sense reasons (theft accusations, weapons etc)'
Huh? Why would .gov have the ability to collect evidence and information after a illegal search or stop. How does .gov have any right to information for violating our rights as citizens. If that is fine why can't government use this more often to instigate more illegal stops and such as long as the overall 'good' of society is protected. That is crazy.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:11:52 PM PDT
by
Theoria
(I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
To: tumblindice
OH MY GOODNESS......
My Freepers......
XO
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:16:22 PM PDT
by
Uversabound
(Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
To: Theoria
If you are ALREADY under arrest due to the outstanding warrant, you property is inventoried.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:16:54 PM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: longtermmemmory
The state conceded it was a illegal stop. He wasn’t stopped for the warrant.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:18:39 PM PDT
by
Theoria
(I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
To: TangoLimaSierra
It’s a typical crap decision we should pretty much expect from the supreme court these days. The police get an almost unlimited “benefit of the doubt” so as not to slow down the freight train of the legal system.
Pretty much the entire concept of “fruit of the poisoned tree” has been steadily whittled away for more than a decade.
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:56:49 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Reading...seems there is more to the story
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posted on
06/22/2016 1:58:55 PM PDT
by
3D-JOY
To: TangoLimaSierra
Don’t get out of the car. Your castle on wheels.
And FReepmail me for a low-priced legal company, like insurance. NO. I don’t sell it or have any interest in it, other than that I have it, too, and have for years.
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posted on
06/22/2016 2:00:38 PM PDT
by
combat_boots
(The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Reading...seems there is more to the story
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posted on
06/22/2016 2:03:17 PM PDT
by
3D-JOY
To: Edward.Fish
So, in essence the ends justify the means. Ding Ding! We have a winner!
Anyone who has been paying attention to the supreme court over the years will recognize that this is just one more bite taken out of our rights by the ever expanding police state. Each small bite of a piranha in and of themselves, is not really all that significant. It all of them taken together that is the danger.
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posted on
06/22/2016 2:03:22 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
To: TangoLimaSierra
Hyperbole is the rule of the day on the net. Everything is “best ever”, “funniest ever” yada yada yada with millions of bloggers trying to get hits. The guy who invented this headline is a lying @ss and should be eternally ignored.
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posted on
06/22/2016 3:28:08 PM PDT
by
Seruzawa
(All those memories will be lost, like tears in rain.)
To: Sopater
The SCOTUS doesnt rule it opines You are exactly right. The Supreme Court does not 'Rule' at all, is just gives an opinion. The Congress has neglected its lawgiving duties, preferring to allow the Court to render politically difficult opinions and then calling that a ruling for political cover.
Thank you for pointing that out. I am always amazed at how few people read the original document, preferring to hear another's opinion at to what it means.
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posted on
06/22/2016 3:54:57 PM PDT
by
SandwicheGuy
(*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
To: TangoLimaSierra
We have thousands of lampposts not in use at the moment.
To: SandwicheGuy
The Congress has neglected its lawgiving duties, preferring to allow the Court to render politically difficult opinions and then calling that a ruling for political cover.
Correct, and the most frustrating thing about that is that Congress, the house anyway, is supposed to represent the people. They, and by extension "we", are granted the most power in the US Constitution. However, congress has surrendered significant aspects of that power to the executive and judicial branches over the years, in order to pass off responsibility and blame. Our current form of federal government would be unrecognizable to the founders. It would only be a shadowy reflection of what they had initially intended.
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posted on
06/23/2016 7:57:32 AM PDT
by
Sopater
(Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
To: Sopater
Correct, and the most frustrating thing about that is that Congress, the house anyway, is supposed to represent the people. They, and by extension "we", are granted the most power in the US Constitution. However, congress has surrendered significant aspects of that power to the executive and judicial branches over the years, in order to pass off responsibility and blame. Our current form of federal government would be unrecognizable to the founders. It would only be a shadowy reflection of what they had initially intended. Well said. But sadly, few Americans care about fundamentals. Even FReepers, arguably some of the most switched on, delight in discussing patches rather than addressing the imbalance of the fundamentals.
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posted on
06/23/2016 3:10:39 PM PDT
by
SandwicheGuy
(*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
To: SandwicheGuy
...sadly, few Americans care about fundamentals. Even FReepers...
Yes, sad but true.
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posted on
06/23/2016 3:31:32 PM PDT
by
Sopater
(Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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