Posted on 06/17/2016 6:03:46 PM PDT by Kaslin
Regarding the Orlando shooting, notice how quickly the media pivoted from the culpability of a sexually repressed Muslim Afghan registered Democrat mass murderer to an assault on firearms? Forget Islam and jihad and the Obama administration's resolute determination to fundamentally change the nature of the United States by importing as many Muslims from alien, anti-Christian and anti-Western cultures as possible. The real problem, in their view, is gun violence:
The mass shootings that have terrorized America have led to a new focus on how to survive them. Though far from an exact science, these efforts are based on a disturbing amount of data – including case studies, the body counts from these tragedies and the personal narratives of people who somehow got out alive.
A number of private companies now train office workers in how to respond in an active-shooter event. The experts agree: Following a few simple rules can help boost a person’s chance of survival. Being mentally prepared to take action in a crisis — or simply knowing where a building’s exits are — can make the difference.
“When you go somewhere, you don’t want to put yourself in a situation where if you get found, you don’t have any options,” said J. Pete Blair, executive director of the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center, based at Texas State University. Blair co-authored “Active Shooter: Events and Response,” which includes guidance for civilians. The book’s mantra is “Avoid, Deny and Defend.”
The piece goes on to list possible strategies for not becoming part of the body count, including flight, barricading yourself, and (as a last resort) defending yourself as best you can -- without a gun:
Blair’s book warns against people with concealed handguns trying to engage a killer except as a last resort:
“The last thing you want to do in an active shooter event is to pull your gun out and go hunting for the shooter. If there are other concealed gun carriers in the attack location, they may shoot you. If the police show up and you are running around with a gun, they will probably shoot you. Remember that no one knows who you are. The responders are looking for someone with a gun and you match that description.”
That assumes the police arrive in a timely manner. But in Orlando, they -- out of an abundance of caution -- spent hours outside the club while the shooter preened, phoned, texted and checked Facebook. Who knows how many of the wounded died in the interim?
In the end, fighting back is always an option, as Blair notes:
Research suggests that there is little hope of reasoning with a mass killer, Blair said. The better move, if there’s no way to flee or find protective cover, is for multiple people to swarm the attacker. They should use whatever they have at hand as a weapon — coffee cups, car keys, anything.
“In general, this person has already shown a desire to murder people. To murder a lot of people,” Blair said. “Is there a chance you might be able to talk him down? There might be a chance. That chance is probably small. We just don’t see it happen in these cases. But we do know that in about 1 out of 5 cases we’ve seen people successfully stop the attacker.”
Those odds might rapidly improve should the nation adopt constitutional carry. As Al Capone famously noted (apocryphally, alas) of his own Brooklyn neighborhood, you get farther with a kind word and a gun than with just a kind word. No real Americans, legally armed, would let the possibility of getting shot by the cops stop a chance to halt a mass murder in progress, even at the cost of their own lives.
The Untouchables (1/10) Movie CLIP - A Kind Word and a Gun (1987) HD
There was a time in America when something like the St. Valentine's Day massacre shocked and outraged the nation, setting off a war against the ethnic gangsters in America's largest cities. In response, state and federal authorities did three things: they effectively banned certain automatic weapons via a crippling tax and strict licensing requirements without unduly infringing the Second Amendment; they cracked down hard on the Irish, Italian and Jewish gangs behind most of the Prohibition mayhem throughout the Roaring Twenties and into the Thirties; and they repealed Prohibition itself. That's what a comprehensive attack on the root causes of crime back then looked like.
Everybody understood that the gangs were the real problem, the types of firearms only a symptom. Do we have the same courage and national determination today to name the enemy and deal with him accordingly?
I say vomit or pee on them.
I mean the left has never been wrong before/s
It couldn’t possibly be because there was more than one shooter in there...but hey, the FBI and Hussein said it was a ‘lone wolf’....ROFL...there isn’t anyone in this government now days that could find their butts if it was handed to them!!!
Damn right. Never go anywhere without a gun. Never ride in a car without the seat belt. Never take out the fishing boat without a life vest. It is all basic safety equipment.
Like going to work in an office building, or the supermarket, mall, ballgame, or Christmas party...
I would think with low lights and pounding music that half of those shot were already down before anyone knew what was going on.
Having been in a live shooter situation, I know that most people become stunned deer.
I stopped judging others about how they react. Unless you have prior experience or training, people will just not act.
The KIND of life we live turns out to be more important than the number of years in it. Rush the shooter? The cautious, careful, ever legal liability minded corporate policy folks won’t tell you this, but YES. If everybody had done that, the casualties would be most likely to be a handful if even that.
This went on for three HOURS. Long enough for even a slow DJ to stop.
In a mass shooting find a position of cover as best you can, reach into your purse, pull out your springfield, and take care of business.
It should be everybody’s free choice, from the gun to the seat belt; it is self defeating to make the 2nd amendment socialist.
(D) I don’t have a gun, unfortunately, but I am going to jump on that bastard NOW
NEVER!
EVER!
LEAVE.
YOUR.
HOME.
UNARMED!
At least half of it is attitude.
There may be more risk involved with jumping on the bastard than shooting the bastard, but it’s still often going to have a better overall outcome than trying to run away from the bastard.
Yup... I wasnt suggesting it should be mandated by law, just common sense.
And common sense also doesn’t play the paranoia game, which is the other extreme.
Texting & tweeting takes two hands and two eyes.
Taxman Bravo Zulu!
If all citizens paid attention and were willing to get involved when witnessing a crime, there would be far less crime.
Being armed helps!
One thing I could suggest would be that if you can conceal yourself well enough to gain a few seconds of visual hiding, would be to do that and then holler as loud as possible “Let’s storm that bastard!” Throw something at him, a chair, a desk, a large piece of equipment, whatever.
Not quite as neat or foolproof as shooting, but the guy who expected instant abject submission is still probably going to be very surprised and have disrupted focus. He may shoot in the general direction but that’s still long enough for others to act, or for you to act again.
Maybe there are places one can’t practically take a gun, but one can still take an attitude.
Maybe...
“Neither. Don’t go to bars or socialize with those who indulge in abominable activities.”
I wonder if they’re likely to attack churches.
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