Sheriff Clarke has some ADVICE FOR TRUMP SUPPORTERS, since the Police will not protect us

To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

181 posted on 06/04/2016 4:55:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Bill Kristallnacht wants to burn down the conservative movement & elect crooked/lying Clinton!)

To: HiTech RedNeck; trisham

The toxicity of many modern formulations is minimal

A source of open flame applied underneath the jet of spray transforms its low toxicity into a formidable thug repellent..

182 posted on 06/04/2016 4:55:36 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)

One nice accessory to carry is a cane (one without a sword, and not modified with lead weight or anything else that would show intent in a hostile jurisdiction), if you know how to use it, since canes are always permitted. A cane made of heavy wood and designed to be sturdy is a wonderful thing.

Americancaneselfdefence.com

183 posted on 06/04/2016 5:08:53 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)

To: HiTech RedNeck; humblegunner

What would FR be without Grumblegunner. It would be like a taco with no pepper spray on it.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

184 posted on 06/04/2016 5:13:30 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)

To: hoosiermama; All

http://articles.extension.org/pages/70030/6-reasons-why-wasp-spray-is-not-a-substitute-for-pepper-spray

6 Reasons Why Wasp Spray is Not a Substitute for Pepper Spray
Pest Management In and Around Structures
September 28, 2015

Gun violence this fall at schools and colleges across the nation helps keep a contemporary legend alive. One version of the legend tells of a church receptionist working in a high risk area who kept a can of wasp spray on her desk for self defense. The legend, usually spread by email, suggests wasp spray draws less attention than a can of pepper spray and is effective against violence.

“These emails may have initially begun as a hoax or simply a bad idea shared among an increasing number of people,” said Catherine Daniels, Pesticide Coordinator at Washington State Pest Management Resource Service.

“Unlike urban legends, which by and large don’t result in bodily harm, just odd behavior in people trying to avoid whatever danger the legend promotes, the advice in this email—if followed— can result in significant harm,” she said.

Janet Hurley, an Extension Specialist with the School Integrated Pest Management (IPM) program through Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service, got many questions from school districts at the beginning of this school year. Hurley provided one example, “A school district in north Texas was inspecting its campuses at the beginning of the school year. The IPM coordinators kept noticing cans of wasp killer in the offices of the school secretaries. Since the school follows IPM and has a policy about only licensed applicators making pesticide applications, the coordinators began to ask questions. Apparently, the secretaries had heard from a law enforcement person who said a can of wasp killer could injure an attacker at 10 feet and therefore would be a way to keep an intruder from school.”

Pesticide experts from Extension services at land-grant universities emphasize the public should use pepper sprays and pesticides only for their intended uses, and ask the public to help debunk urban legends about using wasp spray for defense. They also advise individuals to check with local law enforcement departments for specific laws about the possession and use of pepper spray products.

Why wasp spray should not be used for defense
1. There’s no research to suggest wasp spray would stop an attacker.
2. Using a pesticide in a manner other than according to labeled directions is a violation of federal law (the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act).
3. It is illegal (finable offense) for anyone to recommend a use other than the labeled use.
4. Personal liability is likely to be significant for a person who deliberately sprays another person with a pesticide.
5. Pesticides such as wasp spray have not been tested on humans. Direct human toxicity data comes from records of accidental exposures and suicide attempts.
6. Poison control records document an amazing number of people who have accidentally sprayed themselves or innocent bystanders when using aerosol cans. An emergency situation may exacerbate that reaction.

Pepper sprays
Capsaicin, the active heat ingredient from cayenne peppers, is used in the temporarily debilitating pepper spray weapons for personal protection. Canisters of pepper spray (also known as OC spray or oleoresin capsicum) dispense a solution containing capsaicin, an inflammatory agent which affects the eyes, respiratory system, skin and muscle coordination.

Wasp sprays
The active ingredients in most wasp sprays contain pyrethrins or pyrethroids. They are derived from a species of the chrysanthemum plant and affect the nervous system.

More information
• Insect sprays, http://www.epa.gov/kidshometour/products/ispray2.htm
• The University of California Berkeley Police Department, in its campus safety guidelines, lists the physical effects of pepper spray: http://police.berkeley.edu/documents/campus-safety/maceandpepper.pdf
• Snopes.com tracks urban legends, http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/waspspray.asp

—30—

Released October 30, 2013

Sources: Catherine Daniels, PhD, Washington State University, cdaniels@wsu.edu
Janet Hurley, MPA, Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service, ja-hurley@tamu.edu
Kaci Buhl, MS, Oregon State University, buhlk@ace.orst.edu

Writer: Lynette Spicer, eXtension, lynette.spicer@eXtension.org

185 posted on 06/04/2016 5:17:28 PM PDT by SteveH

https://lacannevigny.wordpress.com/pierre-vigny/

Pierre Vigny is considered one of the most innovative masters of la canne. He created a system that could be best described as a mixture of several indigenous European self defence methods, resulting in one of the most complete and effective stick fighting methods ever devised.

Articles (in the link above, these are linked to the articles)

La canne, Savate’s Walking Stick Weapon Art – Black Belt magazine – originally Published 2005

Quick Flick of the Wrist

Ladies of English Aristocracy

The Defeat of The Hooligan

Common Walking-stick a Powerful Weapon of Self-defense

The Stick Fighting Method Of Pierre Vigny by Craig Gemeiner

The Art of La Canne/”L’art de canne”

The New Self-Defence by Bernard Parsons

The Parasol For Defense

The Walking Stick by Alfred Hutton

The “Bartitsu” Method Of Self-Defence

186 posted on 06/04/2016 5:21:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)

187 posted on 06/04/2016 5:25:18 PM PDT by AFreeBird

To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I dont want to inhale it. Ts bad enouh getting indirect blowback. If indoors it travels all around the structure.

I carry, why am I not going to use my weapon if physically attacked?

188 posted on 06/04/2016 5:52:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)

To: Lexington Green

No but you can be sued by the perp “victim” because it is agains the law to use that product in a manner inconsistent with its stated purpose. You know they will find a shyster to take their case. If nothing else the aclu.

If we are in shtf scenario courts are broken. Now we are not.

189 posted on 06/04/2016 5:54:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)

To: BiggerTigger

From one survivor to another, well done. Telling that the feral in your story has to rely on a false sense of victimhood and social manipulation.

Interesting video about the umbrellas in HK. It’s certainly an excellent deterrent against pepper spray, but I would think that in dealing with your typical melee goon, an umbrella would be useful only with blocking an initial attack. As an offensive weapon, it would be difficult to get much leverage with your arm, and using it as a means to push the attacker back only works if you are being assaulted by a single goon.

Briefcases are wonderful, though you need some good upper arm strength to swing it around you in order to cover all 360 degrees of your body. Length in general is very helpful towards winning a fight; for people with weaker upper-body strength, make sure that your weapon is sharp. (This is also why I have to laugh at any self-defense advice which involves using keys as a line of defense; sharp weapons are good, but you can’t get much leverage with your arm and your jab is easily telegraphed. At least an umbrella gives you a little breathing room and doesn’t leave you open to retaliation.)

Have to agree on adrenaline being integral to winning a fight. People need to be on edge if they ever place themselves in a vulnerable position, for safety’s sake.

190 posted on 06/04/2016 5:57:18 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)

I’ve alteady used a Bubba Stik to good effect..

191 posted on 06/04/2016 6:55:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)

One good, cheap thing you can carry and not get in trouble for is one of those lemon shaped lemon juice containers. If it will stop a 1200 pound stallion from taking a hunk out of you, it’ll work on a human. A good squirt in the nose or eyes sure gets their mind off of biting. Of course I’d rather have a gun for a thug, but if you can’t have anything else, the lemon squirter is better than nothing.

192 posted on 06/04/2016 6:57:11 PM PDT by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)

To: Secret Agent Man

Quote:

“No but you can be sued by the perp “victim” because it is agains the law to use that product in a manner inconsistent with its stated purpose. You know they will find a shyster to take their case. If nothing else the aclu.”

Balderdash. If you attack me and I grab a baseball bat in self defense and crack your skull with it your telling me the assailant has a “right” to sue me because I used the bat for something other than its intended purpose?

193 posted on 06/04/2016 7:02:18 PM PDT by TTFlyer

To: 1_Rain_Drop; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; abigkahuna; adc; Aleya2Fairlie; AllAmericanGirl44; ..

194 posted on 06/04/2016 7:08:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)

To: Pollster1; catnipman; Brookhaven

If you're considering a cane I suggest one of these. Be sure to watch the videos. :) (BTW the prices are MSRP. You should be able to get them for not much more than 1/2 of list price.)

Irish Walking Stick

Dragon Walking Stick

195 posted on 06/04/2016 7:09:50 PM PDT by Jed Eckert (The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem)

To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Ammonia in a Super Soaker works just fine

196 posted on 06/04/2016 7:11:30 PM PDT by Be Careful

Twin, separated at birth?

197 posted on 06/04/2016 7:21:01 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)

We need to bottle the skunk essence into a spray like a wasp spray that sprays way out and not get on the person doing the spraying.

198 posted on 06/04/2016 7:25:08 PM PDT by native texan (Texans should be independent thinkers)

To: humblegunner; Jonty30; HarleyLady27

Yeah ... me too ... and I'm the master at posting confusing statements that need to be explained ... and I always do ...

Why don't you ?

199 posted on 06/04/2016 7:26:40 PM PDT by knarf

Some sprays have this right on the bottle.

They may be state laws, so they may not be everywhere.

200 posted on 06/04/2016 7:47:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)

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