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The court-ordered discovery to uncover details about former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email system has produced the first testimony from her top aides.
This week we released the deposition transcript of Ambassador Lewis Lukens, former deputy assistant secretary of state and executive director of the State Department’s executive secretariat. The transcript is available here. We deposed Amb. Lukens as part of the discovery granted to Judicial Watch by U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in response to our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit involving Clinton’s unsecured, non-government email system ( Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)).
Lukens testified that he thought it was not unusual that Mrs. Clinton did not ask him to create a State Department email account for her. He testified that he understood that her BlackBerry use was only to “stay in touch with friends and family.”
Lukens, according to his testimony, saw Clinton “maybe a half a dozen times” positioned “in the hallway outside the SCIF [Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility] standing there looking at her BlackBerry.” Lukens testified that he saw Mrs. Clinton with her BlackBerry on foreign trips and that her aide Huma Abedin carried around two BlackBerrys.
Lukens also testified about his 2009 email exchanges with Cheryl Mills in 2009 in which he offered to set up a separate computer on non-State Department network to allow Mrs. Clinton to check her email:
Lukens also testified about his 2009 email exchanges with Cheryl Mills in 2009 in which he offered to set up a separate computer on non-State Department network to allow Mrs. Clinton to check her email:
Q. After your conversation with Ms. Mills, Ms. Mills e-mailed you, and it talks about – I’m sorry, the quality of the e-mail is a little difficult to read, but it says: “Let’s set up the office across the hall for her to use. It needs a phone, et cetera, so she can go across the hall to check her BB,” her BlackBerry.
You mentioned that you talked about setting up a computer in her office. Do you know why Ms. Mills seemed to prefer having the computer set up in the office across the hall?
A. This wasn’t for a computer setup; this was to create a space for her to go check her BlackBerry.
Q. Okay. In the Secretary’s office, is that what’s considered a SCIF?
A. The Secretary’s office is in a SCIF, which encompasses a lot more of the seventh floor.
Q. Okay. And the office that’s across the hall is outside that area?
A. Correct.
Lukens also testified about his idea to set up a separate computer and network for Mrs. Clinton. Cheryl Mills and Lukens discussed the email issue in early 2009:
A. So the crux of the issue was that BlackBerrys and iPhones are not allowed in the Secretary’s office suite, so the question was, how is the Secretary going to be able to check her e-mails if she’s not able to have the BlackBerry at her desk with her.
Q. And so what did you — did you propose a solution at that point?
A. So my proposal was to set up a computer on her desk, a standalone computer, for her to be able to access the Internet to check her e-mails.
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Q. Do you know if this setup would have been any different from the setup of other employees?
A. Yes, this would have been different.
Q. How would it have been different?
A. My understanding is that most of the employees’ computers in the State Department are connected through the State Department’s OpenNet e-mail system, Internet system.
Q. So this one would have been separate from the OpenNet system?
A. Correct.
Ultimately, according to his testimony, the computer was not set up for Mrs. Clinton.
Lukens is the first of seven depositions of former Clinton top aides and State Department officials that we have scheduled over the next four weeks. Also to be deposed are Cheryl Mills (her deposition is happening today, in fact) and Huma Abedin, as well as top State Department official Patrick Kennedy, and former State IT employee Bryan Pagliano. In granting the discovery, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan noted that “based on information learned during discovery, the deposition of Mrs. Clinton may be necessary.”
It is noteworthy that this key State Department witness was insistent that he didn’t know Clinton was using non-State.gov emails and computer equipment for government business. It suggests the agency is seeking to distance itself from Mrs. Clinton’s conduct.
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Every place I ever worked within 1 day a company email was automatically set up for me and the sys admin would come give me the addy. He would also send out an email to everyone in the office with the address. Was kind of a.......welcome _______ to ________. Her email address is _________.
JMHO but Clinton ain’t goin’ to Filthyadelpeeeia.
Trump has Bern right where he wants him. He is the one who agreed on the debate stage with Hillary he did not want to hear any more about any emails. Hillary is corrupt to the gills and Bern has no guts or judgment. This has to be tagged onto the Dems for a lifetime.
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“Did the Mills Deposition take place? Why is this so secret? It has nothing to do with the Holiday weekend. Can’t JW just confirm or acknowledge it took place. I don’t see the point in hiding it when it will take a week to release the transcript.”
Judicial Watch has been working tirelessly for years to get to this point and right now, as far as new information being discovered, is head and shoulders above anyone else. They got a Clinton appointed judge to allow these depositions. You should give them a break.
Everyone send them far and wide! We have until November 8, 2016 to save our Sacred Republic!
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