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How Microsoft's tricky new Windows 10 pop-up deceives you into upgrading
PCWorld, ^ | 5/23/2016 | Brad Chacos

Posted on 05/23/2016 9:37:39 AM PDT by george76

Microsoft's new trick to coax users into upgrading to Windows 10 relies on changing behaviors the pop-up's instilled since December.

This morning, the unthinkable happened: My wife, an avowed PC user who long ago swore to never touch an Apple device, started shopping around for a Mac Mini. And it’s all thanks to Windows 10. Or rather, the nasty new way that Microsoft’s tricking Windows 7 and 8 users into automatically updating to Windows 10.

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The annoying “Get Windows 10” pop-up began using deceiving malware-like tactics months ago, but it recently received an overhaul that seems purposefully designed to confuse users who have been wearily slogging through the nagging for half a year now.

That nasty change trick resulted in my wife’s beloved Windows 7 PC being sneakily upgraded to Windows 10 this morning. Sure, she has 30 days to roll it back to Windows 7, but she feels so betrayed—like Microsoft forcibly removed her control over her own PC.

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here’s the icky part: The redesigned GWX pop-up now treats exiting the window as consent for the Windows 10 upgrade.

So after more than half a year of teaching people that the only way to say “no thanks” to Windows 10 is to exit the GWX application—and refusing to allow users to disable the pop-up in any obvious manner, so they had to press that X over and over again during those six months to the point that most people probably just click it without reading now—Microsoft just made it so that very behavior accepts the Windows 10 upgrade instead, rather than canceling it.

That’s gross.

(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: microsoft; microsoftisevil; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Lazamataz

Yep, and in a couple months you’ll have nagware insisting on an upgrade to Win 11.

You do realize you are here on earth to provide and eternal revenue stream to Microsoft, right?


81 posted on 05/23/2016 12:12:51 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: McGruff

Thank you.

I will Obey.

Microsoft is the best software, forever.


82 posted on 05/23/2016 12:15:33 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: george76

There’s a lot of support technicians that cannot have W10. Would probably have to run VMs for their existing apps, lose use of peripherals and legacy apps, would be an instant crap mess.


83 posted on 05/23/2016 12:25:27 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: Ellendra

Oh, but it isn’t your property - it is Microsoft’s!

Read your EULA, you can use THEIR software at THEIR *sole discretion*.

You only paid to use THEIR software, which isn’t guaranteed to do anything, and which they can change at any time.


84 posted on 05/23/2016 12:27:20 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: 867V309

Well, there is that but it seems to be over now

At first I was distraught but I learned that it was on balance better than windows 8 and 7. It now runs on both my computers and they seem to get along a lot better. i


85 posted on 05/23/2016 12:33:44 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: JimRed

Open office is freeware and will work with your msoffice. Features are ... different ... but you can get in and view content. And make changes.


86 posted on 05/23/2016 12:33:48 PM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (Spoons cause obesity. Please call congress to pass a law banning spoons, for the children's future.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Bump


87 posted on 05/23/2016 1:29:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Interesting, I have had updates turned off over two years on 7 now and no Win 10 issues. I tried Gibson Research Never10 just for grins.

"An older Windows Update is installed in this system" "Newer versions of Windows Updates can be instructed to never automatically updrade the current operating system. Press the "Install Update" button to install the newest Windows Update."

Uh, No thank you Gibson Research..............

88 posted on 05/23/2016 1:35:10 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Ellendra
Was required to use MS by my employer, while working a full-time telecommuting job, actually. Otherwise I’m a Linux user.

Me too. When I boot up my crappy laptop, the first thing I do when the OS finally settles down after logging me in, is to fire up VMPlayer, and Fire up a copy of Mint so I can get some actual work done. The only thing windows runs is Lync (gagme) and VMWare.

89 posted on 05/23/2016 1:38:53 PM PDT by zeugma (Today is Pungenday, the 70th day of Discord in the YOLD 3182)
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To: george76

Run CMD and enter wusa /uninstall /KB:3035583

Uninstalls update KB3035583, the W10 popup.


90 posted on 05/23/2016 1:44:26 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: george76

There are hardware and software that will not work with Windows 10 that worked well on Windows 7. Printer drivers etc

I have CorelDraw X3 which is 10 years old but works great on Windows 7 on my desktop pc but when I installed Windows 10 on the laptop then CorelDraw X3 would not work. My work around was to install it in the free Oracle Virtualbox using Windows 7. I did not want to pay $500 for the latest version of Corel.


91 posted on 05/23/2016 1:49:12 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: polymuser

So far anyway, leaving KB3035583 uninstalled on my PC has prevented me from getting a Windows 10 pop-up. I do have my update options set to check with me before downloading or installing updates. Hopefully MS doesn’t get any more tricky ideas about secretly disabling or changing my update settings, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Thanks for the info about how to uninstall KB3035583 just in case.


92 posted on 05/23/2016 2:26:25 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: doorgunner69

Verry interesting.


93 posted on 05/23/2016 2:40:13 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Yes, installing a Windows update to disable a Windows update seems counter-intuitive.


94 posted on 05/23/2016 2:46:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: vette6387

Windows 10 was installed on my PC overnight. I just declined the license agreement the next morning and Windows 7 was re-installed. Took about 10 minutes.


95 posted on 05/23/2016 3:23:46 PM PDT by M.T. Helmets (All the news that fits.)
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To: McGruff

My computer was changed to Windows 10 when I went on line yesterday against my will. Thanks for the info to recover Windows 7, I did it earlier and it was easy and took about 15 minutes, now I’m back on 7, at least for the time being. I also changed the setting on “downloads and updates” to show me before automatically doing them.


96 posted on 05/23/2016 5:00:05 PM PDT by depenzz ("Incoming fire has the right-a-way" (Marine adage))
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To: depenzz
That's good to know that you can revert back to Windows 7 if you want to.
97 posted on 05/23/2016 5:21:20 PM PDT by McGruff (What about #NeverHillary?)
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To: McGruff

At least within the first 30 days.


98 posted on 05/23/2016 5:25:58 PM PDT by depenzz ("Incoming fire has the right-a-way" (Marine adage))
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To: McGruff

That’s not necessary a given. Some people have had trouble, freezes, non-working computers trying to go back.

You should have a backup of your data and install media for Windows 7 or 8.1, just in case you have to wipe your hard disk and start over. That has happened to many. Things can go wrong. Be prepared, just in case.


99 posted on 05/23/2016 5:29:22 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: McGruff

BFLR - thanks for the info!


100 posted on 05/23/2016 5:52:09 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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