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1 posted on 05/19/2016 6:59:59 AM PDT by Nachum
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nuke em?


2 posted on 05/19/2016 7:01:30 AM PDT by brivette (no tagline)
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3 posted on 05/19/2016 7:01:34 AM PDT by Nachum (ISIS is alive... and Chris Stevens is dead)
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I hope they had women and gays in the tank crews. Skill is irrelevant. Have to focus on what’s important.


4 posted on 05/19/2016 7:02:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Is there a “Top Gun” school for tankers?


5 posted on 05/19/2016 7:04:13 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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The American Army is still first in combating global warming and in embracing diversity. We probably have the #1 non-cis-gender tank crew in the world.


6 posted on 05/19/2016 7:04:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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Not to worry...we’ll have robot tanks soon.


8 posted on 05/19/2016 7:05:22 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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But the US places first in the NATO beauty pageant, thanks to new trans-g rules...
10 posted on 05/19/2016 7:06:16 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 (q15.)
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US armor has traditionally been second rate when compared to German armor. The top three teams were all driving Leopards.


11 posted on 05/19/2016 7:07:39 AM PDT by PAR35
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I guess they don’t need us anymore. I suppose we should pull out of Germany. Heck, Korea too.


12 posted on 05/19/2016 7:11:28 AM PDT by Vic S (I am not a number; I am a free man!)
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Do smart phones even work in a tank? /s


13 posted on 05/19/2016 7:13:34 AM PDT by PfromHoGro (Orwell was overly optimistic.)
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This would never happen if a Patton commanded our tank corps. So much for the boutique brigades.


14 posted on 05/19/2016 7:16:38 AM PDT by batterycommander (Keep calm and call for artillery.)
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Precisely

And nicely played


16 posted on 05/19/2016 7:23:03 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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As I’ve pointed out on similar posts, from 1963 to 1991 NATO had a tank competition the winner of which was awarded the Canadian Army Trophy. In the 17 times the competition was held the U.S. Army won it once. That’s half as many times that the Canadians, the Dutch, and the Brits won it. One third the number of times the Belgians won it. And one fifth the number of times the Germans won it. Maybe tank gunnery just isn’t your thing?


17 posted on 05/19/2016 7:23:35 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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crews from the U.S. Army failed to place

But they were oh, so tolerant and sensitive, don't you know...

22 posted on 05/19/2016 7:36:01 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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I read an article by somebody involved with a military “think-tank” (no pun intended) many years ago, and I do mean many years ago espousing tank warfare as antiquated, and that tanks were going the way of the dinosaur.

We still have tanks therefore we should be the best we can possibly be until we don’t.


25 posted on 05/19/2016 7:45:11 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Well, to be fair to the US Army, it’s a little difficult loading a cannon while you’re wearing a dress and high heels.


27 posted on 05/19/2016 8:01:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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In 1939, the Polish Cavalry was the finest cavalry in the world. But the Germans had developed tank warfare as the hammer for their blitzkrieg.

Perhaps drones and helicopters have now turned tank brigades into “Polish Cavalry”?


28 posted on 05/19/2016 8:02:21 AM PDT by wrench
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There is a limited amount of time, money, facilities and equipment for training.

You can use those resources training people to win a “game” in Germany, or you can use them to train Soldiers for war.

Depends on your priorities, I guess.


31 posted on 05/19/2016 8:11:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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First, congratulations to the winners and every tank crew in this competition was a winner to just to get to it. It’s like an Olympics.

Second, back in the day when I was in the Army in Germany, we thought we were hot sh*t. But, were we surprised that our comrades in the National Guard, and the long haired, pot-smoking tank crews from the Netherlands, and conscripts from Germany could compete with us.

Third, wars aren’t won or lost based on individual tank crews, or individual aircraft crews, or whatever, although each man, each crew, and each combination of crew and weapon system makes his contribution. The proficiency of tank crews, number of tanks, their strategic and tactical mobility, combined arms, maintenance and supply, and the battle plan all are very important.

Regarding the Abrams, the M1A2 Abrams is on the big side as “main battle tanks” go, but the Leopard 2 is about the same size, and is similar in many other characteristics. The Abrams has only limited foreign buyers and among the few, one is now looking to order Leopard 2s. As I have seen cost estimate of $5 to 6 million apiece for each, I wonder what’s going on.


33 posted on 05/19/2016 8:14:15 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Meaningless. We actually very rarely win these intra-army competitions. At least the ones that only involve simulated combat with allies. But we’re pretty solid when it comes time to actually kill bad guys.


36 posted on 05/19/2016 8:52:17 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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