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French Barracuda submarine: the most complex artefact in Australia
The Australian ^
| APRIL 27, 2016
| Brendan Nicholson
Posted on 04/26/2016 10:01:53 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
By the end of last year the French were convinced they had made a breakthrough in the race to win Australias $50 billion submarine contract.
Over a series of meetings in Paris, LOrient, Cherbourg and Adelaide, engineers from the French naval shipbuilder DCNS shared with Australian naval officers secret data on their submarines acoustic signature.
The French Barracuda submarine, with its pump jet propulsion system, matches other conventional submarines noise emissions at very low cruising speeds under 5 knots.
But the data showed that when the Barracuda accelerated, as any submarine must do when pursuing an enemy or evading an attacker, the French design was significantly quieter than rivals.
The French declared that they were willing to share all of their cutting-edge technology and they felt then that they had surprised and impressed the Australians.
And so it proved. Led by veteran submariner Greg Sammut, considered one of the ADFs smartest and most diligent officers, the Royal Australian Navys evaluation team was very conscious that in the hunter-killer deadly game of undersea warfare, a quiet submarine wins while a noisy submarine dies.
Yesterday the Australian government publicly announced what the French government had long hoped for: Paris-based industrial group DCNS, expert in naval defence, had won the unpredecentedly large contract to build the Navys 12 new submarines. These 4500-tonne conventionally powered subs will be versions of DCNSs 4700-tonne nuclear-powered Barracuda submarine. The new subs will be named the Shortfin Barracuda, after a predatory fish found in Australian waters.
On completion, as DCNS puts it, the Shortfin Barracuda Block 1A will be the most technically complex artefact in Australia.
(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...
TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; france; ssk; submarine
To: sukhoi-30mki
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:06:01 AM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Shades of The Hunt for Red October...with diesels ..........
Good for France!
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:15:26 AM PDT
by
Mollypitcher1
(I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
To: Talisker
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To: Talisker
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:27:09 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Ted Cruz. It's what plants need...)
To: sukhoi-30mki
http://dcnsgroup.com.au/what-we-do/sea-1000/
The Future Submarine Program will deliver Australian an affordable, regionally superior, conventional submarine capability, sustainable into the foreseeable future.
Australia must have the ability to operate, sustain, maintain and upgrade Australias submarine force on an enduring basis.
Australias Future Submarines project will be the biggest defence acquisition in Australias history, valued at $50 billion.
Building the submarines will be a mammoth task at least twice the size of the Collins Class program.
On completion, the Shortfin Barracuda Block 1A will be the most technically complex artefact in Australia.
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Our pedigree
DCNS is Europes unparalleled leader in naval defence capability.
The firm employ more than 12,500 people globally, boasts turnover of 3.04 billion and has built 100 submarines for nine different countries.
DCNS is the only submarine design company in the world to have design competencies in nuclear and conventional submarines, safely delivering submarines ranging from 2,000 tonnes to 14,000 tonnes to navies all around the world.
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The Shortfin Barracuda Block 1A
The Australian Future Submarine Program calls for a regionally superior submarine. The requirements call for a new submarine, not one that is in existence today.
The Shortfin Barracuda Block 1A, designed by DCNS specifically for the Royal Australian Navy, will be the recipient of Frances most sensitive and protected submarine technology and will be the most lethal conventional submarine ever contemplated.
Pump jet propulsion means the Shortfin Barracuda can move more quietly than submarines with obsolete propeller technology. In a confrontation between two otherwise identical submarines, the one with pump jet propulsion always has the tactical advantage.
The sonar suite performance provided by Thales will be the best available ever for a submarine this size.
Watch Shortfin Barracuda video.
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Full transfer of stealth technology
France is offering the Australian Government complete access to the stealth technologies utilised on board French nuclear-powered general-purpose attack submarines (SSNs) and ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs).
These technologies are the crown jewels of French submarine design and have never been offered to any other country. The very nature of these stealth technologies and the decision to release them to the Australian Government is a significant demonstration of the strategic nature of this program for the French authorities.
The United States will be responsible for supplying integrated combat systems to the Future Submarines, as well as the submarines weapons.
The collaboration between Australia, France and the United States will see DCNS providing design, technology and expertise within this sovereign framework.
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http://dcnsgroup.com.au/what-we-do/sea-1000/ DCNS Australia DCNS Australia is a subsidiary of DCNS, a French naval shipbuilding company and European leader in naval defence. DCNS is also an innovative player in renewable marine energy. DCNS Australia was established in April 2015, marking almost a century of cooperation between France and Australia.
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:30:21 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
To: Talisker
Maybe, but the French do sometimes surprise with their engineering and design creativity. It sound like the propulsion system on this boat set it apart, and the interior design probably feels more like a space ship than a sub.
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:31:38 AM PDT
by
katana
To: katana
Dolphin not included.
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:34:22 AM PDT
by
katana
To: sukhoi-30mki
Am I missing something because $50 Aus Billion is about $40 B US or $3.33 US billion per sub. That is awfully expensive for conventional subs.
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posted on
04/26/2016 10:37:59 AM PDT
by
C19fan
To: sukhoi-30mki
“...the French were convinced they had made a breakthrough in the race to win Australias $50 billion submarine contract...”
Submarine Races?
To: Mollypitcher1; sukhoi-30mki; C19fan
Really, and with an actual “Caterpillar drive” or something very close to it.
Oh, and to C19fan, since this is going to be a completely new class of boat, combining French stealth tech and (probably) the latest in diesel/electric developments, IMHO the price tag isn’t all that surprising. My SWAG is that this is going to be positioned at the very upper end of the diesel-electric spectrum, maybe even using full-on fuel cells instead of reciprocating engines. This is because Australia needs to be able to counter China’s actions in the water to their North which means they need a fair amount of range/endurance, but doesn’t want to go full-teakettle. This will be an interesting project, and I hope that we get at least a few peeks at the systems that are going to make up the propulsion suite.
To: sukhoi-30mki
"with its pump jet propulsion system"
AKA the caterpillar drive.
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posted on
04/26/2016 11:41:33 AM PDT
by
null and void
("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
To: katana
Maybe, but the French do sometimes surprise with their engineering and design creativity.Can't fool me! I've owned two french cars...
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posted on
04/26/2016 11:43:36 AM PDT
by
null and void
("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
To: null and void
AKA the caterpillar drive. Not really, at least not in the way the book described it, and not really revolutionary either. The British have been using pump jet propulsion on their boats for some time now.
To: Lower Deck
True. IIRC, the caterpillar was a magnetohydrodynamics drive.
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posted on
04/26/2016 11:51:24 AM PDT
by
null and void
("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
To: null and void
Which make(s) and models? When I was living in Belgium I coveted the Citroen XM but it was out of my price range.
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posted on
04/26/2016 12:35:21 PM PDT
by
katana
To: katana
A Peugeot 404 sedan and a Renault R-12 wagon.
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posted on
04/26/2016 12:46:01 PM PDT
by
null and void
("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
To: C19fan
Am I missing something because $50 Aus Billion is about $40 B US or $3.33 US billion per sub. That is awfully expensive for conventional subs. It is, but there are a few reasons for the costs that go beyond just building the boats. That money includes upgrading port infrastructure to handle them properly, upgrading facilities for building them (which will also then be available for other projects) and increased costs associated with building the submarines in Australia - it would be cheaper to have them built elsewhere but this ensures that warship building skills within Australia will not be lost - once you lose those skills and industries, it becomes much harder to get them back and that's worth a certain premium.
ASC (who will be building the submarines) employs two and a half thousand workers - they are currently building our Hobart class air warfare destroyers, but that work will start scaling down next year and be complete by 2020 - this deal means that industry and its skill base will survive.
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posted on
04/26/2016 1:48:18 PM PDT
by
naturalman1975
("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
To: null and void
I had a Peugeot in the early 70s. Absolutely beautiful and usually shifted flawlessly. Had a lot of trouble going up steep hills— sometimes I’d have to get off and push it— but it was on that bicycle that I first got interested in racing and the Tour de France.
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posted on
04/26/2016 3:38:30 PM PDT
by
philled
(If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!es)
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