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EXCLUSIVE: Colorado County GOP Chair: Errors with Ted Cruz’s Delegate Win, Might Need Do-Over
Breitbart ^ | 4-25-16 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 04/25/2016 8:00:56 PM PDT by bigbob

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To: Fantasywriter

“In CO the badly trailing second place Cruz”

Where do you get this crap?
No such data exists!

YES I support what happened here!

At State Assembly there were 630 delegates, all of whom were ELECTED at lower assemblies.

Those 630 names filled 14 pages.

Less than 1 page were pledged to Trump.
4 1/2 pages were pledged to Cruz
8 1/2 pages were unplugged.

If you prefer a direct democracy, you might try moving to Honduras.
America is a Constitutional Republic.


321 posted on 04/27/2016 7:01:37 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

When CO voters are actually ‘allowed’ to express a preference, it is for Trump:

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2016/04/21/trump-card-magellan-poll-finds-that-trump-would-trump-cruz-in-a-primary/


322 posted on 04/27/2016 12:53:58 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“by fielding a 609n automated survey “

HAHAHAHAHA!

Do YOU answer those automated surveys?!?!?!


323 posted on 04/27/2016 1:06:12 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

Cruz’ whole strategy lies in not allowing voters to express a preference. When such an opportunity arises, voters express a preference for Trump.

Trump says he is trying to win with voters, while Cruz is trying to win despite them. Actually, at this point it appears Cruz is trying to win to spite voters.


324 posted on 04/27/2016 1:13:04 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

It’s clear you selected the proper screen name.


325 posted on 04/27/2016 8:54:16 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

When ‘allowed’ an opportunity to express a preference, Colorado voters back Trump. Cruz strategy only works when voters are allowed no opportunity to express a preference. The mentally disturbed aspect of it is his continual babbling about winning in a “landslide.” That is just plain unhinged. Cruz needs to drop out and seek help—ditto any supporter that thinks Cruz won CO in a landslide.


326 posted on 04/28/2016 6:56:01 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

All this from one flimsy, after the fact poll?

I’m a District Captain and attended Caucus with 3 other Districts, covering 25 precincts.

Most took “unofficial straw polls” and NONE had anymore than minor support for Trump.

That is why Cruz slates were voted into County Assembly, and then on to State and Congressional District Assemblies.

If Trump had the support you suggest, then all that was required was to get the supporters off of their butts and into caucus to elect delegates.

Whining about lack of a direct vote is neither smart or productive.


327 posted on 04/28/2016 7:07:43 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

You protest too much. The poll I cited is the only one taken during the crucial time frame, and it shows Trump walloping Cruz. If you have a better poll, post it. Meanwhile, stop whining that the voters were given an opportunity to express a preference. That’s not illegal...yet.

‘The chairwoman of the Boulder County GOP has admitted that grave errors affected the Colorado Republican caucus, in which Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
won a clean sweep of 34 delegates without opening up the process to voting by everyday citizens.’

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/25/colorado-3/


328 posted on 04/28/2016 7:48:33 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

APRIL 21st is NOT “during the crucial time frame”.

“without opening up the process to voting by everyday citizens.”

Is a LIE.

Nobody was kept from participating in the caucus.


329 posted on 04/28/2016 10:52:12 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

You have no choice but to define the crucial time frame in such a way as to exclude the poll. But it is the only poll taken anywhere close to the “landslide” Cruz ‘win,’ so unless you can cite one even closer, it is the best resource.

Take your complaint re the wording to Breitbart. They wrote the excerpt I cited, not I. But before they’ll take you seriously, you’ll have to ply them with prodigious quantities of Cruz Kool-Aid. Without that, no one believes Cruz’ silly narrative. The seriously flawed process in CO has been a PR disaster. Cruz’ polling numbers have cratered—and rightly so.


330 posted on 04/28/2016 11:17:19 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“But it is the only poll taken anywhere close to the “landslide” Cruz ‘win,’ so unless you can cite one even closer, it is the best resource.”

You make my point for me.

There IS NOT DATA prior to the caucus indicating Trump was ahead in Colorado.

It is a BOGUS CLAIM.


331 posted on 04/28/2016 11:24:42 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

What an absurd claim. So you believe the voters of CO were predominantly pro-Cruz—for which there is not a shred of evidence—and only switched to Trump after Cruz “won in a landslide”? What kind of “landslide win” was it, that it should have so quickly have inclined former supporters to switch to Trump?


332 posted on 04/28/2016 12:49:00 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Uh...the “shred” is the result of precinct, county, and state caucuses, which Cruz swept.

You toss out some obscure, after the fact, automated poll, which is notoriously unreliable, and pretend is sacred text.


333 posted on 04/28/2016 3:10:58 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

You’re as unhinged as Cruz if you think he went from 100% support to 34% support in a matter of weeks. It’s entertaining, though, to see you treat a poll of voters’ actual preference like a vampire reacting sunlight.


334 posted on 04/28/2016 5:37:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Do some research on the reliability of automated polls.

ESPECIALLY after all the national hype and trumpertantrums.

I’ve wasted too much time with you already.


335 posted on 04/28/2016 9:03:50 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

Supporters like you are one of the biggest problems Cruz’ failed campaign faced. You either never had any common sense or you were only too happy to sacrifice it in the cause of the absurd.

There is not a person alive who believes Cruz’ pre-caucus support in CO was 100%. Not one.

The only people defending a ridicously flawed system, that awards delegates to spite the preference of the voters are genuine, bona fide members of the Cruz cult. I.e.: people whose support for Cruz is such as to render them incapable of grasping even the most basic, common sense facts.

Here is the bottom line. CO woke people up. Perceptive voters had already concluded Cruz was a lying shyster. But it took CO to clue in the average voter. Once they saw the real Cruz, his support tanked.

And still you lack the objectivity to realize this is a losing battle for you. You continue to pimp the insane idea that 100% of CO voters backed Cruz prior to the shamefully flawed caucuses. Instead of bailing water on the rapidly sinking SS Cruz, you are enlarging the leak as fast as you can. When the ship goes under, you’ll go with it. Enjoy the ride.

Btw, who is the latest gullible person to glom onto the fact that Cruz is a liar? Kasich. Kasich imagined, after all the lies Cruz has already told, that he could trust Cruz’ offer of a partnership. Dumb move. There is no one Cruz wouldn’t stab in the back if he thought it would advance his cause—no one.


336 posted on 04/29/2016 5:10:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

You’re clown.

This is a representative Republic.

The Caucus elects delegates to REPRESENT them.

Committed Cruz Delegates outnumbered Trump Delegates 4 1/2 to 1.

Cruz organized in Colorado and Trump did not.

Thus, only Cruz Delegates WERE ELECTED.

For your reference, in Florida Trump won 40% of the vote and received 49% of the Delegates.

According to you, he should give 9% back.

Grow up and learn something.

If you want a direct democracy, move to Honduras.


337 posted on 04/29/2016 7:19:13 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

Haha! The CO delegation ‘represented’ the voters by being 100% for Cruz.

This word “represent”—it does not mean what you think it means.


338 posted on 04/29/2016 8:12:32 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

It means the Trump supporters sat home and were neither organized nor motivated to participate.


339 posted on 04/29/2016 9:05:09 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

Your Cruz-blinders prevent you from even recalling the subject of the thread. Hint: the errors were such as might require a “do-over”:

‘The chairwoman of the Boulder County GOP has admitted that grave errors affected the Colorado Republican caucus, in which Sen. Ted Cruz won a clean sweep of 34 delegates without opening up the process to voting by everyday citizens.’


340 posted on 04/29/2016 9:11:25 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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