Mississippi Redux????
Sorry, Trump goes to the convention with 1240+,thanks for the history lesson though
Millions of actual voters may tend to disagree with you.
Cruz is cratering. He won’t see 700 delegates, and will be millions of votes behind. Giving him the nomination would destroy the GOP for generations.
Justify it anyway you want, but Cruz or Kasich will not be the nominee.
Trump is the presumptive nominee and Cruz is an asterisk, like Kasich. They are mathematically eliminated.
It’s time to unite behind the only viable candidate, if we are to win in November. That’s Donald Trump. The power now is in unity. All Aboard!!!
Cheers!
So you think that the delegates are going to choose an alternate candidate that is further behind in both delegate count and voter count over the front runner, if Trump doesn’t win the first ballot outright. That is a good way to alienate the voters, destroy the party completely, and hand the election to Hillary.
God, but you are prolix.
“the risk of laboring the point, I submit that the fellow who waltzed into the Convention as the presumptive nominee was not the best candidate. Lincoln was.”
At another risk, I submit that we all know how that little selection turned out.
Half of the country destroyed, millions of dead and wounded and centuries of enmity.
Not saying that this would happen, however, if that’s how you suggest that the Republican party was born, then I am proposing that it may very well end that way as well
A runoff is exactly how Cruz outlasted a pack of 8 also rans to heavily favored Lt. Gov. Dewhurst and then beat him for the Senate seat.
For later careful reading.
Good post but if you really think there is a possibility that trumpers will see reason, you are a bit optimistic.
Dream on!
Keep shoving “the rules” down everyone’s throat so that you pump up your candidate when it is convenient. Do you think in Politics that all rules are followed and just because a rule exists that it is just?
By the way, you think it is ok to be able to “bribe” delegates away from voter intent? Is that democracy nowadays just because it is “the rules”
Bribery is illegal in all 50 states, why would it be legal for the RNC?
The run off argument only works if primary elections get a redo. I think you know very well that delegates...GOPe ones at that, reversing the will of the voters is a deal breaker. Those of us who are at our flipping limit over pubbies sent to DC to thwart obama giving him his every wish are at our last straw.
If my vote is disregarded, 35 years of straight pubbie tickets is over. I will NEVER cast a vote for anyone will an R after their name even if they run unopposed.
This most incomplete history lesson omits the most important fact:
NEVER, since the early 1850s when the party was formed, has a candidate gone into the convention with 90% or more of the required majority and been denied the nomination. In fact, I have looked at every “contested” convention and the most a candidate ever had and didn’t become the nominee was 80% of the majority number, I believe.
Trump will easily attain the 90% number, and may well attain 1237 before the convention, but however you cut it, depriving him of the nomination given the numbers he will most certainly attain would be literally unprecedented.
Waste of words. He’ll get 1300 on the first ballot.
And, yeah, the CO thing was a deliberate attempt to thwart the will of the people, as today’s Magellan poll proves. They KNEW who would win, and didn’t want Trump winning. So climb down off the GOPe tree.
Stop, just stop. In case you haven’t been paying attention this week, Ted is getting ready to be thrown under the bus by the Establishment. They are slowly coming to terms with Trump as the nominee. Manafort met with the Committee members and slowly, they are saying nicer things about him. After the next round of drubbings on the 26th, the Establishment will be putting pressure on Cruz to get out for the good of the party. He was used by them. It didn’t work out, so they will drop him first chance they get.
But, that will surmise Trump coming to the convention probably within 100 delegates of winning and having that huge gain taken away from him.
It also does not take into account GOPe meddling in trying to ensure that neither Trump or Cruz wins.
IMHO, any of these outcomes...even if they do "follow the system," will be pyrrhic.
either the Cruz people (if they lost) and particularly the trump people (if they lost) would feel disenfranchised and would be so emotionally invested that they walked away...and that ends up in a Hillary win.
The only path I see, is for Ted Cruz to, perhaps after the May 3rd election, come to an accommodation with trump and unite the party behind Trump.
I am an avid Cruz supporter.
As much as I like him and believe he would be better over all...the facts on the ground are what they are and I am more dedicated to the nation and our republic.
A 3rd Obama term would be absolutely disastrous...and it would leave the GOPe intact.
we need to avoid that...and Cruz can make that happen, and it is what I believe he should do for the sake of the country. Immigration and the Wall
Ending the Iran deal
Overturning Obama Care and replacing it
Improving our foreign Relations
Absolutely defeating ISIS
Brings Jobs back
His Tax Plan
etc.
We would be well on pour way to turning America around and Cruz can help make all of that happen.
It would also most probably lead to Cruz being president after Trump.
We lose all of that with an ugly, raucous, convention floor fight.
This is the sort of tone that makes Cruz and his lawyerly tactics repulsive.
It’s rhetoric Internet age. Smoke filled rooms aren’t as invisible as they were in days of yore.
Give all the history lessons you want, but if the GOP defies the will of the primary voters, the already strained relationship will break completely. Many will stay home for the general or write in “Trump”, as the hallowed rules allow them to do.
The only shame I feel after reading that excellent history lesson is that I sent money to Cruz.
Polls in Indiana, California, and Pennsylvania all have Trump leading.
If that holds, then there is no doubt he goes to the convention with his 1237.