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To: the_doc

The run off argument only works if primary elections get a redo. I think you know very well that delegates...GOPe ones at that, reversing the will of the voters is a deal breaker. Those of us who are at our flipping limit over pubbies sent to DC to thwart obama giving him his every wish are at our last straw.

If my vote is disregarded, 35 years of straight pubbie tickets is over. I will NEVER cast a vote for anyone will an R after their name even if they run unopposed.


18 posted on 04/22/2016 1:49:04 PM PDT by lovesdogs (Think Mr Trump can't make Mexico pay for the wall? He made the media give him a free campaign)
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To: lovesdogs

Hi, I love dogs also, but I believe you are putting your faith in a straw man.

Trump has shown no indication, past or present, that he will fight the establishment or even that he will fight the dems.

He’s been aligned with the dems for years. He did not HAVE to donate to Hillary to do business. He wanted to. He likes her.

Can’t figure out what people think Donald Trump is serious about keeping his word. It does not match up with his history.


25 posted on 04/22/2016 1:54:52 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: lovesdogs
Nope, I have to disagree with you. The Party system exists as a reflection of the unworkability of purely direct democracy (a political philosophy of true democracy that our Framers vigorously opposed anyway).

The "Convention-balloting-as-a-run-off" argument works precisely because it is the way to may make sure that a guy who can't even get a majority approval by his own Party doesn't get nominated and subsequently slaughtered in the general election.

All of the cheerleading hype about Trump cannot undo the fact that about 60% of Republicans don't like him and many of those will never vote for him.

What's your fix for this disastrous mess? (That's a rhetorical question, because you don't have any fix but the Convention itself.)

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Look, I don't like the GOPe anymore than you do. But we can get out of this mess by holding the GOPe's feet to their own rules fire. And what I was saying in my modest essay is that FRumpsters don't get to whine if Trump loses on the grounds that 60% of Republicans don't like him at all.

132 posted on 04/22/2016 6:26:53 PM PDT by the_doc
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