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To: Jim Robinson
Until a candidate achieves the 1237 votes required to secure the (R) nomination they are mathematically eliminated from the nomination, are they not?

Was not Abraham Lincoln mathematically eliminated from the 1860 (R) nomination until the 3rd ballot?

Did Abraham Lincoln betray the grassroots of his day by not leaving the race when he was mathematically eliminated going into the convention?

FReegards!

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16 posted on 04/22/2016 1:10:23 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

“Was not Abraham Lincoln mathematically eliminated from the 1860 (R) nomination until the 3rd ballot?”

Apparently I have to state the obvious.

Today’s traditions are different, the expectations of the Republican voters are different, and a nomination in the style of the 1860s will not be tolerated by many Republican voters who bothered to vote, enough to guarantee the election of the Democrat.

Is that clear enough?


19 posted on 04/22/2016 1:13:21 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: Agamemnon

They are eliminated the moment they cannot reach the 1237 number per the primary vote. Cruz is eliminated the same as Bush, Fiorina, Paul, Huckabee, Carson, Rubio, et al. Kasich is also eliminated but he’s hanging in there as an establishment ruling class traitor. If Cruz continues, he’s in the same class as Kasich.


27 posted on 04/22/2016 1:18:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Agamemnon

There were no Primary Elections in 1860. It was solely a convention. The first Presidential Primary Elections didn’t occur until 52 years later in 1912.


30 posted on 04/22/2016 1:21:26 PM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: Agamemnon
There were no primaries in Lincoln's day!

Conventions were run by the political insider's.

To win the nomination, the nominee had to make countless deals to pay off the Party leaders in the States.

Lincoln was greatly vexed by the promises made by his campaign leaders that he had to fulfill after he was elected President.

60 posted on 04/22/2016 1:59:32 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Agamemnon

Cruz will be lucky to get halfway there. His only chance of success involves manipulation and subterfuge that will alienate even more than the 73% of Republican voters who already reject him.
He’s really just Hillary’s stalking horse at this point and his efforts are in direct opposition to everything he supposedly stands for. He’s going to get beaten worse and worse as time goes by and more start to see him as the guy trying to throw this election for the GOPe power brokers.


121 posted on 04/22/2016 3:13:15 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverCruz)
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To: Agamemnon

“Did Abraham Lincoln betray the grassroots of his day by not leaving the race when he was mathematically eliminated going into the convention?....”

Too bad he didn’t. We wouldn’t have had over half a million young men dead and the entire South destroyed for 100 years.


162 posted on 04/22/2016 5:02:12 PM PDT by CatDancer (Praise the Lord and Vote Trump!)
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To: Agamemnon

Until a candidate achieves the 1237 votes required to secure the (R) nomination they are mathematically eliminated from the nomination, are they not?


With all due respect, I disagree.

At the start of the primary process, no one was mathematically eliminated.

However, at this point, Cruz and Kasich would need to receive over 100% of the remaining delegates to get to 1237, so they actually are mathematically eliminated from the nomination on the first ballot. Cruz needs 109%. Trump can achieve the nomination with 63 percent (Slate).

Why do they stay in when clearly Trump has the path and the popular vote?


197 posted on 04/23/2016 1:26:18 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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