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Trump or Cruz
vanity | 17 April 2016 | wgflyer

Posted on 04/17/2016 6:35:15 PM PDT by wgflyer

As a stout, constitutionally minded conservative I am, of course, a Cruz supporter. As a person who has worked and saved all my life toward my recent retirement, I am adamantly anti socialist, hence, anti Democrat, anti establishment, and I am ok with Trump. I would prefer that Cruz wins, but if either of the two becomes our next president I will celebrate.

The current Trump/Cruz divisions on our side of the political spectrum, and the rancor, is distressing. But perhaps there’s another way to look at things, for beyond the election.

Cruz has already demonstrated a bulldog effort to counter the elite. Trump has expressed a huge desire to fix their screwups. Both accuse the other of dirty tricks in the campaign and the two factions are busily attacking one another, to our combined detriment.

Face it. No one is going to make a dent in the establishment without the ability to use the tools at hand to his utmost advantage. Nice guys won’t be able to compete with the likes of our current Federal Government occupants. We will need ruthlessness. The “dirty tricks” are, if you will, training for dealing with the real enemy, who’s strength and underhandedness has been so formidable.

With Cruz’s knowledge of constitutional law and his persistence in fighting for us, as already demonstrated, and his ability to work establishment primary rules to his advantage show us he goes not toothless into the fray. Trump’s unabashed political incorrectness and his ability to derail the media and flummox the establishment indicate strength and resolve. His ability to turn disadvantage into advantage shows cunning. Both candidates are willing to fight back as necessary and both, amplified by the bully pulpit and a broad popular support, could do wonderful things for we who want our country back. Any other candidate, on either side, would be the usher of greater decline.

We’re at a three way fork in the road. One fork leads to, and over, a cliff. The other two take us elsewhere, to be determined in future history, but certainly away from the cliff.

I profess that I don’t really know what will motivate trump if elected. I’m pretty sure what will motivate Cruz if elected, as it has been demonstrated to me under fire in the Senate. I’m absolutely certain as to what will motivate any other Republican or Democrat if elected. The establishment elite in both parties, and their cronies across the huge bureaucratic landscape, will do everything in their power to derail or coerce either Trump or Cruz both before the election and especially if one of them is elected, because the path to the cliff is gilded with gold, roses and waiting parachutes for them. We can’t have that.

If we think about it, perhaps, in that light, maybe we can focus on making sure that one of the two “good alternatives” becomes the candidate, swallow our bile if our guy loses, whoever our guy is, and support the winner. The combined Trump/Cruz grass roots support is a powerful voting block and is as impervious as has ever been to the establishment media assault complex.

Never Trump, if not Cruz, or Never Cruz, if not Trump, are not wise philosophies at this point in the game. Either candidate marks a decided change from the path we’re currently on. That is a good thing. One of them absolutely must be our next president.


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To: stockpirate
We are feet of clay.


31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

81 posted on 04/18/2016 5:52:25 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Theophilus
Egyptian, lol I guess only if I want to me in denial.

God can use anyone for His will.

82 posted on 04/18/2016 5:56:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mom of young patriots
I appreciate your response, Mom of Patriots. Thanks. Conservative definitely doesn't mean the same to everyone. People have been lied to and treated like dirt by government and the media for so long now, I understand the hatred, the rancor on both sides, but this is Freeperville, where cooler heads should reign. No insult intended to either camp, but we're on the cusp of a really great coup here. We need everyone on the same boat at the end of the primary, whatever it takes, to make it happen.
83 posted on 04/18/2016 8:23:38 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Theophilus

I’m not feet of clay, I stand solid with my God. The term is also used to show a person who is not what he appears to be. Ted sCruz is not an honest man, and not annointed by God to rule America.


84 posted on 04/19/2016 4:26:43 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: A CA Guy

If Ted sCruz can get this to be a contested convention he will be offered VP to Jeb Bush.


85 posted on 04/19/2016 4:28:35 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: stockpirate
Doesn't matter, anyone but Trump loses big to the Democrat.

People are nuts if they think Bush, Kasich, Rubio or especially Cruz could ever get past 40% in the election.

If the GOP and PACs of the GOP stand down so Trump is able to go against only the Democrat Machine and the Press then Trump IMO would do great.
Trump doing great is the problem for the established GOP because he is not them.
I hear Shapiro call him I think Thug and Pig this morning. So an American citizen who is a person of accomplishment is beneath them.
That is what people need to get regarding the GOP, they all mirror that kind of talk about everyone being beneath them because they are such elevated beings we should just be quiet and worship.

I'm thinking the party is in the long term dead.

86 posted on 04/19/2016 8:43:34 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wgflyer

I agree 100 percent. I am guessing that a lot of people who are angry and saying that they won’t vote if “their guy” isn’t chosen will cool down and regroup before the general election. I think, when the dust clears, they will refocus on the plan to keep Hillary or Bernie out of the White House at all costs. It is hard to maintain anger over something in the past when you’re staring at a clear and present threat. We’ll hope, anyway.


87 posted on 04/19/2016 12:12:58 PM PDT by mom of young patriots
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To: stockpirate

United States of Abortion = feet of clay.


88 posted on 04/20/2016 6:57:12 AM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: wgflyer
This is the way I see it. I don't want a Swiss Knife president. I want a big picture guy who sees the landscape, communicates well, is vfearless, has an eye for talent and can run an organization. That's my job description.

Expertise like Cruz's can be hired. That's staff.

89 posted on 04/20/2016 7:09:31 AM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: Mom MD

Trump is not Lazio.


90 posted on 04/20/2016 7:21:16 AM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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