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Path to certain failure: NeverTrump + NeverCruz = NeverWin = LostSCOTUS = LostFreedom = LostNation

Posted on 04/13/2016 2:36:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: fooman

Do you also have a bridge for sale?


281 posted on 04/13/2016 6:26:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Those are two fairly dumb statements.


282 posted on 04/13/2016 6:26:29 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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To: CottonBall

That’s fine, you’re entitled to your opinion. If Cruz was pro-illegal immigration, he would have voted for the Gang of 8 bill.


283 posted on 04/13/2016 6:26:54 PM PDT by Big E
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To: editor-surveyor

I guess you haven’t seen the NY and rest of the NE polls.


284 posted on 04/13/2016 6:26:59 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Defiant

His senate seat.


285 posted on 04/13/2016 6:27:15 PM PDT by fooman (#NeverHillary Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Tammy8

I’m just curious. What caused you to change your mind about Cruz?


286 posted on 04/13/2016 6:28:13 PM PDT by Big E
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To: CottonBall

I am with you on that, I don’t think immigration would even have been allowed to be an issue if Trump hadn’t have brought it up and got such a positive response to his promise to deal with it.

Am I 100% sure Trump will keep that promise if elected? No, but I am far more sure that Cruz won’t mess with the status quo.

I am convinced Cruz promised as much to the Mormons and GOPe to get Romney support to win Utah. I have Mormon family members and Mormon friends and know the LDS leadership would not have supported him if they thought he would change anything about illegal immigration, other than to help it along.


287 posted on 04/13/2016 6:30:42 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Jim Robinson
Wisconsin was an establishment win all the way.

Ryan couldn't even deliver his home district.

288 posted on 04/13/2016 6:32:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: editor-surveyor

Your lies are blatant.

And there’s no point coming back with a condescending post to me. But you will anyway, because you are arrogant.


289 posted on 04/13/2016 6:33:28 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall; Jim Robinson

He said: “Because he has no path to winning honorably via we the voters.”

Because Cruz has broken no rules in gaining delegates, he has not acted dishonorably in that endeavor. Therefore, Jim must be talking about a contested convention and the presumed deal-making there.


290 posted on 04/13/2016 6:35:14 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: fooman

Yes, he won that as a Dixiecrat one time, and whatshername from Alaska won as an independent last time, after she got primaried (another example of the GOPe working against the voters—they let her back into her seniority.) But I thought we were talking about a presidential election.


291 posted on 04/13/2016 6:36:11 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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To: nclaurel

Start here, go forward.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1856_Republican_National_Convention


292 posted on 04/13/2016 6:36:46 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: mouse1; Jim Robinson; editor-surveyor; CottonBall; Lakeshark

I have NEVER voted for democrat and I’ve NEVER sat out a presidential election so if I’m alive, I’ll be voting for the GOP nominee because the demonic-rat is unthinkable.

If I’m dead, I won’t be responsible for my vote.

Period.


293 posted on 04/13/2016 6:37:03 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Big E

He was not willing to clearly state his thoughts/plan on dealing with illegal immigration in the beginning of this campaign, even though he has made statements in the past that it needs to be dealt with. When Romney gave him his support and LDS leadership made sure he won Utah I knew he would do nothing about illegal immigration. LDS/Utah supports open borders and illegal immigration, as well as welcoming Muslim refugees with open arms. If Romney/LDS had believed there was a chance Cruz would upset the immigration policy we have now Cruz would not have won Utah.

There are other things that I have not agreed with but illegal immigration is the deal breaker for me.


294 posted on 04/13/2016 6:37:34 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: onyx

“Mr. Cruz, in his zeal to win at any cost, is irretrievably losing “good will” that’ll be almost impossible, if not impossible to win back, should he succeed at the convention.”

His unethical methods might be acceptable to democrat voters, but conservatives expect more from their candidate. Especially when he claims to be the most conservative, most Christian candidate ever.


295 posted on 04/13/2016 6:37:39 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Defiant
That's a terrible analogy. A ballgame where one side has 3 and another 12 does not go into overtime.

I'd agree that there is no sport that makes a perfect analogy for my point; but, then there is no sport that makes a perfect analogy for your point... although, perhaps a sport other than a ball game might might be better.

Although imperfect, consider a baseball game. For argument sake, say the Trump Bombers are winning 8 to 5 against the Cruz Constitutionalists (or 800 to 500, converting runs to delegates). At the bottom of the ninth, the team with the most runs is the winner; of course, the analogy is most imperfect here, as there is no winner unless one of the teams has 13 runs. There is nothing wrong with Team Cruz rallying in the 9th to tie, and winning it in the 10th or 11'th inning.

Oh, and btw, I see team Trump and team Cruz in the same league. In the National Series, I'm still rooting for the American League against the 'Rat League, regardless of whether its the Trump Bombers or Cruz Constitutionalists representing the American League.

296 posted on 04/13/2016 6:39:57 PM PDT by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I understand your skepticism but it is overdone.

That much skepticism would mean we are resigned to romney being the nominee.

I choose optimism .


297 posted on 04/13/2016 6:40:01 PM PDT by fooman (#NeverHillary Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Jim Robinson

You really don’t see it? I’ve explained it clearly. However, if I explain it more clearly, you might want to ban me, so I am not going there.


298 posted on 04/13/2016 6:40:33 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: onyx

“If I’m dead, I won’t be responsible for my vote.”

I guess we can only hope you don’t live in Chicago :)


299 posted on 04/13/2016 6:43:32 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Tammy8

“Am I 100% sure Trump will keep that promise if elected? No, but I am far more sure that Cruz won’t mess with the status quo.”

I think Trump will follow through. In his books, he talks a lit about having to follow through on what you promise or people won’t believe you a second time. And he’ll have the entire nation watching.


300 posted on 04/13/2016 6:44:14 PM PDT by CottonBall
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