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After Loss in Colorado, Donald Trump Supporters Give State Chairman an Earful
New York Times ^ | 4/11/2016 | Alan Rappeport

Posted on 04/11/2016 8:11:07 PM PDT by snarkpup

[Colorado Republican Party Chairman Steve] House acknowledged that there are a lot of deeply entrenched players within the party who think the system works well and believe that those who are the most politically engaged should determine who becomes the party’s presidential nominee.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: co2016; cruz; jedijonestrolling; republican; rockymountainhiest; stevehouse; taft; trump
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To: snarkpup
“It was done exactly according to the rules,” Mr. House said, denying claims of underhanded or manipulative tactics.

What a sleazeball. It's the Colorado rules that are unhanded and manipulative, and intentionally designed to disenfranchise the voters and allow party insiders and activists to pick delegates loyal to a candidate of the insider's choice.

41 posted on 04/11/2016 8:47:02 PM PDT by Will88
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To: D-fendr
It’s a caucus/convention state and started with 60,000 registered republicans caucusing.

If a primary election in a state with the population of Colorado had a turnout of only 60,000 people, it would be considered a disaster.

42 posted on 04/11/2016 8:47:18 PM PDT by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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To: D-fendr

The only votes that mattered were establishment insiders.


43 posted on 04/11/2016 8:48:13 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: snarkpup

They require registered republican voters who care enough to attend and continue to support their candidate.

That’s up to them. I think it’s not a bad system.


44 posted on 04/11/2016 8:49:11 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: TroutStalker

The only votes that mattered were registered republicans who cared enough to caucus and follow the rules to elect delegates.


45 posted on 04/11/2016 8:49:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: snarkpup

Trump takes support from dyed in the wool Democrates and criticizes cruz for taking votes from the GOPe (which includes every living Republican that doesn’t support Trump) Go ahead what this country needs is another LBJ or another Obummer. And we don’t ever want to hear you bitch again.


46 posted on 04/11/2016 8:51:16 PM PDT by RightLady (God Bless the USA)
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To: snarkpup

I would suggest a simple fix. Spend a Saturday night drafting up a new party, new icon, new theme, and new symbol...open up on Monday with the “Real-Republican Party” (RRP). Denounce the GOP as RINO and use mostly Twitter, Facebook and the internet to get the message out. Require a Alexander Hamilton bill ($10) to officially join and to serve as a yearly fee. Pick out five or six towns in Colorado to hold a yearly conference, and openly campaign against any candidate that the state GOP supports. Put up local enthusiasts against GOP nominees....up and down the state.


47 posted on 04/11/2016 8:51:21 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: snarkpup
[Colorado Republican Party Chairman Steve] House acknowledged that there are a lot of deeply entrenched players within the party who think the system works well and believe that those who are the most politically engaged should determine who becomes the party’s presidential nominee.

Why not take the next step and allow the Central Committee to determine who becomes the next president?

48 posted on 04/11/2016 8:52:37 PM PDT by map
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To: JediJones

Look here Jerry Jones, your snark and self satisfaction are yours to enjoy presently. Ted has been too smart by half.

Smart ground game = political chicanery at it’s finest!

I rue the decision to donate and vote for Ted. If not for me and like minded Texans, you would have no discussion here.

He is not of the people, as was previously hoped and believed.

He was never a man of the people.

Colorado recalls the words of Yamamoto.


49 posted on 04/11/2016 8:53:58 PM PDT by Beer30 (Every man has to believe something. I believe I'll have another beer.)
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To: TroutStalker
For a Republican caucus primer, go here.

This mess is what simple attendees need to know. For the people who volunteer for the thankless job of being a precinct committeeman who will run a caucus, it's even worse. When I did it (about four years ago), I had to attend at least two training sessions ahead of time that covered all the paperwork and bureaucracy involved. Some questions were still not resolvable and the people on the Executive Board all gave me different answers because even they didn't understand the system.

50 posted on 04/11/2016 8:55:05 PM PDT by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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To: D-fendr

Pretty amazing that only 60,000 registered republicans caucusing in state with a population of 5 million.

Looks like they already are dead.


51 posted on 04/11/2016 8:57:48 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: snarkpup
I had to attend at least two training sessions ahead of time that covered all the paperwork and bureaucracy involved. Some questions were still not resolvable and the people on the Executive Board all gave me different answers because even they didn't understand the system.

It was meant to be obtuse. That way lawyers can litigate into eternity.

52 posted on 04/11/2016 9:03:34 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: TroutStalker

You have to really care.

I think that’s a good thing. Better than open primaries.


53 posted on 04/11/2016 9:04:05 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

OK, enjoy your party. Bye.


54 posted on 04/11/2016 9:07:08 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
If the “party bosses” are betting that average voters won’t show up at the caucuses, then isn’t the best way to beat them by...showing up?

The caucuses are only the tip of the iceberg. Most people who are elected as delegates at the various levels are unknown to the people who are voting for them. To have any influence, you really need to attend not just your caucus, but also your county assembly, your state legislative district assemblies (which may be a county away), the federal congressional district assembly and the state assembly (the latter two may be on the other side of the state and involve some days on the road and staying in motels). In addition, since presidential convention delegates are notorious for lying about who they support, you really need to attend the national convention as well if you really want to know what you're getting.

Since only a very limited number of people are allowed to particpate at these higher levels (above the cauci) only an insignificant percentage of the public is even allowed to "show up" in a meaningful way.

55 posted on 04/11/2016 9:07:23 PM PDT by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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To: TroutStalker

It does seem like Trump should have been able to turn out more though.

:)

Have a good and peaceful night.

FReegards.


56 posted on 04/11/2016 9:08:23 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: JediJones

Thank you for your support of the GOPe, mutable “rules”, and inside gaming. Slick Teddy is no outsider. He never has been. You know it. Everyone knows it. But, if this critically well thought-out defense you have presented here for us of The Peoples Republic of Colorado and the complicit fraud Cruz helps get you through the night, then sobeit. By the way, just screenshotted Drudge. You should take a look at it if you are having trouble sleeping. LOL


57 posted on 04/11/2016 9:13:14 PM PDT by taketheredpill
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Cruz is a cheater...just ask Heidi..


58 posted on 04/11/2016 9:13:49 PM PDT by topfile
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To: D-fendr

As far as taglines go, yours is a bit uppity.
Perhaps,...”Latin is a dead language, dead as it can be. First it killed the Romans, and now.....


59 posted on 04/11/2016 9:14:10 PM PDT by Beer30 (Every man has to believe something. I believe I'll have another beer.)
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To: caww

i’m not complaining about trump, i’m complaining about colorado’s GOPe voter disenfranchise system, a system designed not only to shut out existing party members, but anyone else foolish enough to consider joining the party.


60 posted on 04/11/2016 9:14:36 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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