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N.J. judge hears challenges to Cruz eligibility
philly.com ^ | Maddie Hanna

Posted on 04/11/2016 12:20:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

A New Jersey administrative law judge on Monday heard two challenges to GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz's eligibility to appear on the New Jersey ballot, based upon the Texas senator's birthplace in Canada.

The judge, Jeff Masin, didn't decide the challenges to Cruz's eligibility to appear on the June 7 primary ballot, but said he would issue a decision Tuesday. The decision is expected to be reviewed by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, who is New Jersey's secretary of state.

One of the challenges was brought by three South Jersey citizens, and the other by a law professor who lives in Maryland and is running for president as a write-in candidate in New Jersey. Both parties argued that because Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a natural-born citizen, making him ineligible for the presidency.

Cruz's mother was born in Delaware, while his father was born in Cuba. The senator released his birth certificate in 2013.

Shalom Stone, a New Jersey attorney representing Cruz, argued that the citizens - Fernando Powers of Blackwood, Donna Ward of Mantua, and Bruce Stom of Winslow Township - and Prof. Victor Williams didn't have standing to challenge Cruz's candidacy. Stone also said the state didn't have authority to decide the question.

As for "natural-born citizen," Stone said the words in the U.S. Constitution "have meaning given to them by English common law" at the time of their adoption. He directed Masin to his brief for cases supporting Cruz's position.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; cruz; desperatedonald; repositorycruz; trump
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To: Brookhaven

The Cruz’s should have stayed up North. Ted would have been a far better choice than the current Prime Minister Trudeau.


381 posted on 04/12/2016 12:44:43 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: JayGalt

Cruz found eligible.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/judge-ted-cruz-eligible-to-be-on-n-j-primary-ballot-1.1543279


382 posted on 04/12/2016 4:19:14 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

As I expected.


383 posted on 04/12/2016 4:19:52 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: RoosterRedux

Cruz found eligible.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/judge-ted-cruz-eligible-to-be-on-n-j-primary-ballot-1.1543279


384 posted on 04/12/2016 4:20:45 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: JayGalt

The ruling.

http://media.philly.com/documents/Judge’s+ruling+Ted+Cruz+to+remain+on+NJ+ballot.pdf


385 posted on 04/12/2016 5:33:43 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Born in Hawaii...Born in Hawaii..Born in Hawaii

According to who?

386 posted on 04/12/2016 5:50:16 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: 4Zoltan

Thanks but no thanks.


387 posted on 04/12/2016 5:55:25 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Nero Germanicus
Conservative judges

What is that?

388 posted on 04/12/2016 5:56:05 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Keep saying it, eventually people will believe it.

Don Ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nrTCYhXbyE


389 posted on 04/12/2016 6:03:00 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Nero Germanicus
The Courts

The Courts are filled with baby-killing faggot-loving Marxists.

Martin Van Buren in 1837 was the first president who was a natural born citizen, the seven presidents before him were born British subjects. John Adams was even the attorney for the British crown in prosecuting the American revolutionaries involved in the Boston Massacre.

Yeah, well they had to openly grandfather themselves, because there were no natural born citizens of age yet....but all of us already knew that.

Blacks got U.S. citizenship via statute, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 which negated the Supreme Court’s ruling in Dred Scott v Sandford which said that blacks had never been citizens and could never be citizens. American Indians got citizenship via statute from the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Asian Americans got citizenship via repeal of the Chinese Exclusion Act statutes. I don’t think that there are many people who would say that no black, no American Indian and no Asian-American can be president because citizenship for that group of people was originally created by statute.

I don’t think that there are many people who would say that that has any bearing on the subject matter at hand, but rather matters of naturalization.

The constitutional basis for those statutes is the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens...” The offspring of naturalized citizens whose citizenship was created by statute are natural born citizens.

Yeah, but only if they were born in the US....but then again, all of us already know that. So what?

390 posted on 04/12/2016 6:14:50 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Still Report on The Eligibility Ruling
391 posted on 04/12/2016 7:52:31 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Ray76

February 4, 1790, while discussing a bill to establish a uniform rule of naturalization U.S. Rep Aedanus Burke (South Carolina) said: “The case of the children of American parents born abroad ought to be provided for, as was done in the case of English parents, in the 12th year of William III”

Burke, presumably, is referring to “An Act for the further Limitation of the Crown and better securing the Rights and Liberties of the Subject”

Stat. Realm Vol. 7, page 636 http://www.british-history.ac.uk/statutes-realm/vol7/pp636-638

[] no Person born out of the Kingdoms of England Scotland or Ireland or the Dominions thereunto belonging (although he be naturalized or made a Denizen (except such as are born of English Parents) shall be capable to be of the Privy Councill or a Member of either House of Parliament or to enjoy any Office or Place of Trust either Civill or Military or to have any Grant of Lands Tenements or Hereditaments from the Crown to himself or to any other or others in Trust for him

Here the English law itself acknowledges that the foreign-born child of English parents is naturalized.


392 posted on 04/12/2016 8:16:39 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

James Madison, who had no part in drafting the 1790 Act, led the committee which drafted the 1795 Act which repealed the careless language of the 1790 Act.


393 posted on 04/12/2016 8:23:02 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

Another way to look at it is that Madison thought that the Congress had the power to define Natural Born Citizen in 1790 and he used the same power in 1795 to rewrite the legislation. This, among other reasons, is why many in the Judiciary believe that this dispute must be remedied by the Congress and not by the Courts. They are relying on the Plenary Power of the Congress from Article I, Section 8, U.S. Constitution.


394 posted on 04/12/2016 8:33:29 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

James Madison had no part in drafting the 1790 Act. You can not claim that he “thought that the Congress had the power to define Natural Born Citizen”, that is your speculation.


395 posted on 04/12/2016 8:35:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

In England people are divided into aliens and natural-born subjects (Commentaries, Blackstone, Bk 1 Ch 10). They are “natural born subjects” because the “King becomes a naturall Father to all his Lieges at his Coronation” (The True Law of Free Monarchies, James I of England (1598)).

Such is not the case in the United States.


396 posted on 04/12/2016 8:43:01 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: danamco

I guess this is over for now. You trumpets are morons with all the birther stuff!


397 posted on 04/13/2016 4:10:35 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: Ray76

If he didn’t think that the Congress had the power, he wouldn’t have taken the same course in 1795, would he? He might have turned to the Supreme Court. That option is still open to the Birther Brigade, they can challenge the law in court. Instead, they have cited the Birther Brigade canon and the judges look at the facts and the law, wonder why these amateur legal brains have not talked about the law and it’s over.


398 posted on 04/13/2016 5:21:31 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: BillM

Simple question: Is Barry Soetoro eligible to conquered and sitting in the W.Hut???


399 posted on 04/13/2016 6:53:58 AM PDT by danamco
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To: BillM

Well I should have checked you out as being CANADIAN likewise your Cuban Sandwich !!!


400 posted on 04/13/2016 6:56:23 AM PDT by danamco
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