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New Kasich N.Y. ad goes after Cruz, ignores Trump
The Washington Examiner ^
| April 7, 2016
| Anna Giaritelli
Posted on 04/08/2016 3:20:50 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: trebb
They will likely be shunted aside as the GOPe/RNC finds a way to nominate Rubio.
Then all the more reason for a candidate with a sizeable amount of delegates like Cruz to get in and push back. Cruz backers have little interest in letting Rubio back in. Though I am sure that either Trump or Cruz would be willing to make the right deal for hi delegates.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:14:30 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
To: fortheDeclaration
While I support Trump, this is exactly how the vetting process works. Even in the General election, if no one gets the number of delegates it falls the the House I think.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:15:28 AM PDT
by
stockpirate
(Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
To: Dr. Sivana
Then all the more reason for a candidate with a sizeable amount of delegates like Cruz to get in and push back. Cruz backers have little interest in letting Rubio back in. Though I am sure that either Trump or Cruz would be willing to make the right deal for hi delegates.Do you listen to yourself? Cruz has fewer delegates than Trump, will lose even more ground and is keeping one man from having the requisite delegates to make a smooth segue to the nomination. Except for his collaboration with the GOPe/RNC/MSM , Cruz would be another casualty on the road. He picked up the ball and ran t backwards to score points for the opposing team and is waiting to do it again and again if need be to stop Trump even though he knows he is clouding the waters with muck - we will be so disorganized and discouraged that we might as well cede the election to Hillary/Bernie/Sean Penn or anyone else the Left decides to nominate.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:24:09 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: trebb
Cruz has fewer delegates than Trump, will lose even more ground and is keeping one man from having the requisite delegates to make a smooth segue to the nomination.
No man is owed a coronation.
Do you think that everyone should get out and not even allow so much as a protest candidate? Trump has cleared 50% even with a less crowded field maybe once or twice. He is likely to win the nomination, but he NEEDS competition to improve his game, as he has shown that he is capable of making Paladino and Mourdock style mistakes.
Republicans who want to vote for someone else should have an opportunity to do so, including those in California.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:36:09 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
To: trebb
Cruz has fewer delegates than Trump, will lose even more ground and is keeping one man from having the requisite delegates to make a smooth segue to the nomination.
No man is owed a coronation.
Do you think that everyone should get out and not even allow so much as a protest candidate? Trump has cleared 50% even with a less crowded field maybe once or twice. He is likely to win the nomination, but he NEEDS competition to improve his game, as he has shown that he is capable of making Paladino and Mourdock style mistakes.
Republicans who want to vote for someone else should have an opportunity to do so, including those in California.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:36:53 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
To: mylife
Mr Maggio says the Karate kid needs to STFU!
That's Miyagi!
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:46:49 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
To: Dr. Sivana
Wonder if Donors are happy knocking Ted below 10%
To: fortheDeclaration
Based on your logic no candidate should ever drop out!
No. Based on my logic no candidate should be forced to drop out over RNC pressure. He can run out of money, be abandoned by supporters, etc. and decide to drop out on his own.
Regular voters and the other candidates can and sometimes should tell someone its time to get out, but some without a chance stay in as a protest candidate (Pat Buchanan 1992, Ron Paul 2012, Jesse Jackson 1988). That is their prerogative, and if the RNC tells them they can't do that, you risk alienating whatever bloc of voters who back that candidate despite losing.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:52:14 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
To: Old Retired Army Guy
Cruz is headed for CA as he probably knows NY is a waste of time. Kasich may be running for VEEP on a Trump ticket.I certainly hope so; Trump needs all the help he can get with women. Women generally like Kasich, odd as that may seem to FR.
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:55:22 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: fortheDeclaration
No, actually that is exactly how primaries (and caucuses as the state party sees fit) and state conventions are supposed to operate.
Both major parties have followed the wisdom the Founders showed in the original Constitution with indirect election of Senators and the Electoral College in building restraints on popular enthusiasms into their presidential nominating processes. The nomination always takes place as a result of action by the party convention. Primaries and caucuses and state conventions select slates of delegates which may or may not be bound to vote for particular candidates on the first ballot (or first and second ballots), and both parties include unbound delegates from the party hierarchy (ironically, given both their party’s name and their contempt for the Founders wisdom, the “Democrats” have a larger groups of such undemocratically selected delegates than the Republicans).
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posted on
04/08/2016 4:55:33 AM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
To: The_Reader_David
Just to point out -
The GOP’s automatic delegates have been elected in their own right as state party chairs or RNC members. They just don’t need to be elected again specifically to be convention delegates.
And GOP automatic delegates are subject to the same rules for delegate vote allocation as other delegates.
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posted on
04/08/2016 5:04:23 AM PDT
by
jjotto
("Ya could look it up!")
To: Old Retired Army Guy
Would not surprise me. Kasich is not the top of my list for a VP, but Kasich will help deliver OH to Trump in November and help put MI and WI in play.
If Trump goes with Kasich, Trump will only need to win on his own just under 1,100 delegates. He’ll do that easily with wins in NY, CA, NJ, MA and CT.
The game for Cruz isn’t over, but the outcome has been decided. Just a matter of the clock running down to zero.
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posted on
04/08/2016 5:14:09 AM PDT
by
HombreSecreto
(The life of a repo man is always intense)
To: fortheDeclaration
If he stays in they’ll give it to him at the brokered convention instead of Cruz. After all, he polls best against Clinton.
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posted on
04/08/2016 5:18:13 AM PDT
by
JerseyDvl
(#NeverCruz)
To: kevcol
Remember when the media was pushing for Repub candidates to get out because they were low in the polls or failed to win a certain primary? Now its been a month or so since Rubio quit and freaking Kasich, who HASNT WON A DAMN THING, and has no chance in any primary IS STILL THERE. Notice how no one in the media is telling this loser to GTFO! He will not be VP, he will not be the nominee in a contested convention. The little Shite needs to stop stroking himself and GET OUT!
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posted on
04/08/2016 5:58:10 AM PDT
by
Brooklyn Attitude
(It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
To: fortheDeclaration
Why is Kasich still in the race? The RNC should demand he withdraw since he has been mathematically eliminated. Same reason Cruz will stay in when he is mathematically eliminated in NY.
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posted on
04/08/2016 6:17:39 AM PDT
by
dartuser
To: MarDav
Neither will Trump.
Not with the BERNIE vs BEAST battle brewing.
Proud of Ted though...went there is full knowledge that he would be totally flamed.
And walked head on into the fire.
Unlike some who shrink at the site of a blonde.
heh.
Jedi.
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posted on
04/08/2016 7:22:43 AM PDT
by
JEDI4S
(THE GREAT DELEGATE HUNT IS ON....HELP DEFEAT THE INTERLOPER!)
To: fortheDeclaration
Says who? It’s up to each state do decide the rules of their own primary or caucus.
We ended up here because a Rino from the North East was able to fool some on the right and some Evangers into voting for him.
Jedi.
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posted on
04/08/2016 7:26:39 AM PDT
by
JEDI4S
(THE GREAT DELEGATE HUNT IS ON....HELP DEFEAT THE INTERLOPER!)
To: JEDI4S
What contempt you Cruz guys have for the voters!
No wonder you don't mind Cruz stealing delegates!
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posted on
04/08/2016 11:52:46 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: The_Reader_David
The primaries are to show which candidate has the best chance to win the election.
The history of those running has been to concede to the front runner when the candidate sees he cannot win the majority of the delegates.
At no time has someone stayed in just to prevent the front runner from getting the needed delegates to take the nomination to the convention.
This is against the spirit of the primaries.
The Democrats, rejecting their own voters, have instituted the Super Delegates, to decide who wins their nomination and still give the illusion that their voters are choosing the candidate, when we know it is the Party bosses who are doing it.
If all GOP primaries are run like this one, primaries will be meaningless, since the nominating process will always end up back in the convention.
The elites of both parties are terrified of losing power and are circumventing the will of their voters.
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posted on
04/08/2016 11:58:51 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: Haiku Guy
The problem is that the nomination process has a spirit to it, that the goal is to get the best candidate that represents the will of the GOP voter.
Jeb Bush dropped out because he saw he was rejected and could not win.
Now, we have Kasich, who has only won one State, hanging around as if he is a legitimate candidate, which he isn't.
If all nominations were held like this one, it will always end up at the convention, with the Party bosses deciding who is going to be the candidate, not the voters.
This is now what the GOPe wants since they see their candidates have been totally rejected by the grassroots.
As the campaign season moves on, there should be only two candidates left to see who the voter's truly want, not one whose only purpose is to draw votes away from the frontrunner so he can't get the majority of delegates.
This goes against the spirit of primaries and will result in all future nominations either farces, with the voters not voting, or back in the convention so the elites can choose their candidate.
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posted on
04/08/2016 12:05:32 PM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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