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Low-income housing ordered to be integrated in Baltimore neighborhoods
Fox ^ | 4/5/2016

Posted on 04/07/2016 2:35:42 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

Baltimore-area neighborhoods are locked in a heated battle over a new push to bring residents from poor parts of the city into the more affluent suburbs.

The controversy surrounds government-subsidized Section 8 housing.

With crime in the inner city soaring and many of Baltimore’s neighborhoods plagued by gang violence, there was a push to integrate those communities into neighborhoods in the surrounding county. The NAACP and others sued Baltimore County over alleged housing segregation – and the county has now settled, agreeing to spend $30 million over the next 10 years to build 1,000 homes in affluent neighborhoods.

On top of that, the Baltimore County executive is planning to put forward legislation outlawing the practice of landlords denying – or as some see it, discriminating against – Section 8 tenants.

“I think it's important that we make sure that opportunities are available to everyone within the region," County Executive Kevin Kamenetz said.

It’s unclear whether such a proposal would even pass.

But the plans have faced stiff resistance from some residents and lawmakers.

“I think it's nonsense,” said Pat McDonough, a Republican Maryland delegate. “The overall policy which is coming out of the White House -- it is coming out of President Obama's philosophy of social engineering on steroids -- we're going to make everybody better if we move everyone to Kingsville. … It’s a failure and is destined to fail.”

The argument from the NAACP and its allies, though, is that typical Section 8 subsidized housing programs bunch poor people together, and that this only fuels more crime and other problems.

Under the new plan, residents from low-income neighborhoods would be placed all around Baltimore County, essentially integrating the poor among wealthier families.

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To: lowbridge

30 thousand won’t build a cow shed. Any 30 thousand dollar structure would not be nice enough for these scum bags; they would how discrimination and want their “affluent” neighbors to take the cheap house while they move into Whitey’s crib.


41 posted on 04/07/2016 4:51:00 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Altura Ct.

What they are talking about is building, purchasing or coercing owners of homes in those areas to allow Section 8 ‘renters’. The city/county has to buy or build them and become landlords themselves, or coerce a free owner somehow to rent.

Section 8 isn’t just some magic that happens; it is an obtrusive, overbearing system of BS that automatically puts it on the owner to comport with all US housing regulations and codes, at their expense even before joining the program. The owner has to willingly accept all their terms. Usually the government computes what the ‘renter’ pays (after paying the lion’s share of the rent to start with) from some dumbass formula like 25% of their ‘spendable income’ - I believe income isn’t SNAP, WICs, TANF etc. - may part of their EITC booty each year). Overall, they pay a pittance, the government pays the rest.

When they get short on smokes, lotto and dope cash they start ripping out plumbing fixtures, appliances, copper plumbing, copper wiring, light fixtures, doors, anything they can sell. The owner is often left with a gutted out house when they finally can convict them for not even paying their $50 or so share of the rent each month. This story is repeated over and over and over again, and when that blight hits a neighborhood, decent people up and move.


42 posted on 04/07/2016 4:58:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Senator_Blutarski
If a group of people can't afford to pay $700 per month for rent or a mortgage, how are they going to pay a $400 per month utility bill on a 3,200 square foot suburban home? Maintain the yard,keep up with painting, landscaping, cleaning up leaves, etc....

You know, all those white privilege things that do themselves and pay for themselves? Not to mention the taxes? Those are another $350 per month.

43 posted on 04/07/2016 5:01:04 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Gaffer

evict, not ‘convict’


44 posted on 04/07/2016 5:02:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Anyone who takes a Sec 8 tenant deserves what they get, I give a bye for the first time.


45 posted on 04/07/2016 5:04:46 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: Altura Ct.

In a state with strong 2nd Amendment protections and a broad Castle Doctrine, this could work. Maybe you could call this federal program, “Behave or Get Shot.” In Maryland, not so much.


46 posted on 04/07/2016 5:11:10 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SkyPilot
Your graph in 23 has got to be wrong. According to that graph, the most murderous cities are either black or hispanic!

Everyone knows that white, Christian, taxpaying, gun owning, married, working, males are the most murderous....EVERYONE!

47 posted on 04/07/2016 5:16:49 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Altura Ct.
Under the new plan, residents from low-income neighborhoods would be placed all around Baltimore County, essentially integrating the poor among wealthier families.

The Obamassiah might be able to use force to move the low income residents in to those areas... but can't do anything to stop existing residents from moving out. Which one might consider if they live in Baltimore County...

48 posted on 04/07/2016 5:20:13 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: ABN 505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eQvN0eqkTg

All the tenant had to pay was $53 out of over $1000/month rent. And didn’t even pay that.


49 posted on 04/07/2016 5:24:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: R. Scott

Back in the 60’s that was their reasoning for integrating the schools, “to bring blacks up to the same education level as whites”. It didn’t work either.

My dear departed Dad said, “we won’t bring them up to our level, they’ll bring us down to theirs.”

Discipline went out the window. If a black kid starting doing well, the other blacks accused him/her of “acting white”. It was a no-win situation. Still is.


50 posted on 04/07/2016 5:27:23 AM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: Altura Ct.

“You vil surrender evfry tenth house in your ghetto...er...neighborhood to the poor. Vee will make accommodations in our local gulag for the displaced rich peoples. You vil be quite comfortable there.”


51 posted on 04/07/2016 5:32:16 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Altura Ct.

Talk about black privilege, having the government build you a home based on your race.

The crime that follows this program is incontestable.

Does anyone think the huge amount of section 8 housing in Southern California has anything to do with illegal immigration?


52 posted on 04/07/2016 5:39:47 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Altura Ct.

So elderly, frail old women will be forced to live alongside street thugs. When the women are assaulted, robbed and raped, no one in the media will reference this latest action by the government.


53 posted on 04/07/2016 5:43:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Great. Reverse gentrification.

Baltimore already has miles of streets with boarded up houses that have zero economic value.


54 posted on 04/07/2016 5:50:11 AM PDT by zek157
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To: lowbridge

That won’t happen even with building apartment units. They also couldn’t come close to rehabbing 1000 homes for 30K each with the lead abatement laws.

MD is another state in the process of failing.


55 posted on 04/07/2016 5:57:07 AM PDT by zek157
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To: sphinx

I would start with making section 8 tenants responsible for the property they live in. At a minimum, if they damage/destroy a property (we are talking far above & beyond reasonable wear & tear), they are kicked out of the program forever.

Have you ever seen the aftermath of a destructive tenant?


56 posted on 04/07/2016 6:07:27 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Gaffer

I know all about them, they are the scum of the earth . We had a property manager rent out my Brothers house while he was on duty overseas to Sec 8 scum and they almost destroyed his house. It took forever to pry them out and forget about any rent money. The kicker was when they finally left they stole all the appliances in the house.


57 posted on 04/07/2016 6:12:14 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: meatloaf

$30 million over the next 10 years to build 1,000 homes in affluent neighborhoods.

That is $30,000 per home. Enough for a tar paper shack after the land is paid for, if you can even get land that cheaply.


58 posted on 04/07/2016 6:25:46 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: zek157
I would start with making section 8 tenants responsible for the property they live in.

Agreed. But the truth is, you could never collect damages from most of these people. Kick them out of the program, fine. A lot of poor people are trying to get their lives back in order, and are being sabotaged by our toxic mix of dependency-inducing welfare assumptions. Good policy reform could go a long way. But that leaves us with the incorrigibles. At some point, we need to put a pick and shovel in their hands and tell them to work or starve. And if that means we need to put their children in orphanages or foster care, I'm fine with that.

59 posted on 04/07/2016 6:33:16 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
BTTT

You and I are on the same page.

60 posted on 04/07/2016 6:37:58 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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