Posted on 04/06/2016 2:41:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Republican front-runner has released new details on his plan. Here’s an attempt to take it, and his foreign policy, seriously.
Maybe it’s because Donald Trump’s proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexican border has more than doubled in height over the course of his presidential campaign, theoretically soaring past the Berlin Wall and Great Wall of China. Maybe it’s because Mexico’s former president said he wouldn’t pay for “that (expletive) wall.” Maybe it’s because the idea has been reduced to a call-and-response mantra at rallies. Whatever the explanation, Trump’s critics tend to dismiss his pledge to make Mexico “pay for the wall” as a cheap, chauvinist applause line at best and a dangerous deception at worst—an attempt to foist an impossible dream on an impossible benefactor.
“The most beautiful tall wall, better than the Great Wall of China, that will run the whole border, that he would somehow magically get the Mexican government to pay for,” Hillary Clinton mused in March. “You know, it is just fantasy.”
Is it?
There is good reason to treat Trump’s plan to build a wall on Mexico’s dime as the opposite of fantasy....
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
How's your golf pro. Is he a better teacher, golfer, or salesman?
See this is the point... why have we been allowing all these years people illegally in the country to wire transfer and money in and out of the country.....that’s insane
Why after all these years of the government allowing this kind of crap .....does it finally take someone like Trump to come along and point this out?????
something so freaking obvious....
it’s like the fact that I’ve had someone illegally using my social security number since at least 2000
and the only reason I know is because I went to the California Franchise Tax Board and ask for information on my reported income to them against my social security number... and they accidentally asked if I was..then mentioned an Hispanic name working at some sheet metal plant in Santa Ana
but that’s the thing all the government computer databases .....they have all the multiple people using the same SN ... it’s a simple report to run to show the this
... they know when one more more than one person is using the same SSN
they have all the information they’ve had it for years
they do nothing they don’t want to do
just like these wire transfers in and out of the country.... you have to show ID!....they could stop illegals wire transferring funds ......
The government doesn’t want to do it they’re in cahoots with its they don’t care!
so why is it that takes a guy like Trump ...a complete Outsider to start really raising a stink about this.... the first guy in my life time running for president that put this front and center item one on his!
where is all the rest of these government people that for years that I should have address this issue????
and why don’t they do it????? because it’s follow the money.... cheap labor makes people money... and they will not let you stop their gravy train....
that’s why the ....anything.... anything....anything....to destroy Trump campaign
Smoke and mirrors........
There will always be obstacles to those that don't want to do it but they are simply challenges to be overcome by those that actually want to build it.
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it's called an ID you have to show an ID when you wire transfer
I just wire transferred some funds not more than fifteen minutes ago I had to show my ID... my driver's license ....and I was just transferring funds domestically
just like you need to show your ID to get on a plane just like you need to show your ID and passport to cross the border
I think it would be logical that transfers of money across borders falls under he same rules as a person crossing borders...
if you want to International transfer funds a valid passport is required ... after all you can't ship things in and out of country without a valid manifest ...
you can't cross the border in and out of the country without a valid passport... why should you be able to transfer money in and out of the country without the same level of ID...
and people that transfer funds all the time can set up the same kind of speed access like you can do if you traveling out of the country like I do.. something similar to fast pass for border crossing.....
I've done a hell of a lot of international travel do you want how much checking they do make sure you are who you say you are and what you bring it in and out of the country
yet you can send cash in or out of the country without even being here in the country legally ....that's crazy
but then again why reinvent the wheel they already have restrictions on large amount of money being transferred in and out of the country ....there's already a system in place to restrict that to check that
it's truly funny because there's all the security systems in place for transferring money to make sure people aren't stealing it or intercepting transfers
yet they don't use the same level of security to confirm the person is legally able to transfer the funds
there's tons of security and make sure the funds transfer is secure... and tons of security to make sure the person accessing the funds the receiver is legitimate valid person to receive again valid ID is required.
but no security to check the person transferring the funds is legally here in the country and has a legitimate right to do so
funds transfer already has an extensive security system in place
.... it just doesn't check if your legal or illegal in the country..... that's idiotic
———Cruz copied after he saw it was indeed popular.———
Wrong......
May 9 th 2013 Cruz proposed legislation to finish the 700 mile wall while Trump was pushing amnesty....
Illegals are pretty good at getting ID - certainly good enough to get past the Western Union/convenience store clerk.
Even with perfect ID checking an industry of legal surrogates would pop up overnight.
if you want to International transfer funds a valid passport is required ... after all you can't ship things in and out of country without a valid manifest
There are lots of legitimate reasons for people without passports to transfer money out of the country. Parents sending money to students abroad. Kids sending money to their parents who retired in Mexico. And on and on. It would be incredibly disruptive to the world economy to require a passport. That isn't a requirement of any Know Your Customer protocal that I've ever heard of.
Of course.
reality sucks man.
I never thought of any of that.
how many men and how much money to secure without a wall, or at least where we cant build one right away. what’s the cost. any ideas?
it’d be worth it.
The thing is you wouldn’t need a wall the entire length of the border. Here in Texas we have the area from El Paso over to say Presidio, where good roads run all the way to the river from Mexico. The bad guys rule a lot of that. Put up gun towers every mile or so of wall, fill ‘em with snipers.
Then you have the area from Presidio over to Langtry or so where electronics, aircraft and BP agents could easily protect from invaders. I’m against building a wall through there. The communities on the Mexican side are tiny and the roads getting in there are your basic dirt road. Not that much traffic getting into the river area. Not to say there are no bad dudes, there are and I’ve seen them, but nothing the BP couldn’t cover. Just armor ‘em heavy and turn ‘em loose. If I am riding my mountain bike down around the old mine or somewhere in the Big Bend and I see a couple of armored humvees go by, I give ‘em a big thumbs-up.
From Del Rio to the Gulf could use some wall, wouldn’t be that bad to install. Doubt you’d need as many gun towers, or snipers. Doable.
All in all I think Trump is right that we should make the Mexicans pay for it, they’ve certainly profited mightily from the absence of security.
LOL, it was never a wall until Trump. It was a fence.
In the beginning of the campaign, Cruz was deafeningly silent on illegal immigration. He did not have an illegal immigration plan for months, while the other candidates had detailed ones. He condescendingly said ‘The American people don’t want to have that conversation’. I sure as hell did, so I found a new candidate with the balls to have that conversation. And then he got a plan but it was vague on what to do with the illegals here. He was using self-deportation, then added to his plan a bit at a time until it resembled Trump’s.
In 2013, Cruz said he wanted a plan ‘that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows’.
I like his plan now just fine. And I hope he actually means it. Just as I hope Trump means his. But Trump was first on this issue in this campaign, taking the arrows while Cruz was nowhere to be seen.
is border control more hassle than open borders course it is.... but there is a reason for increased security for border Crossings these days....
so to increase Security on the transfer of funds across the international border there are valid reasons.....
and just asking proof that you're not illegally in the country is not an invalid reason.
Duh. “Eminent domain” The government is allowed to take anything it thinks it has a use for.
I agree, illegals shouldn’t be permitted to send money home because they shouldn’t be able to work in the first place. If you develop a system that can actually determine who the illegals are when they try to send money home, it would work at the employer level as well. So, they wouldn’t have the money in the first place.
And the owners are allowed to go to court over it.
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