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Ted Cruz, Not Paul Ryan, Would Probably Win A Contested Convention
FiveThirtyEight ^ | 4/6/16 | Nate Silver

Posted on 04/06/2016 10:03:41 AM PDT by justlittleoleme

It’s not that hard to imagine a contested convention. In fact, with Donald Trump’s path to 1,237 delegates looking tenuous, especially after his loss in Wisconsin on Tuesday night, it’s a real possibility. And it’s not hard to see how Republicans might think of Kasich or Ryan as good nominees. If Republicans were starting from scratch, both might be pretty good picks, especially from the perspective of the party “establishment” in Washington.

But Republicans won’t be starting from scratch, and the “establishment” won’t pick the party’s nominee. The 2,472 delegates in Cleveland will. And most of them will be chosen at state or local party conventions a long way from Washington. Few will be household names, having quietly attended party gatherings in Fargo, North Dakota, or Cheyenne, Wyoming, for years with little remuneration or recognition. Although the proverbial Acela-riding insiders might dream of Ryan or Kasich, there are indications that the rank-and-file delegates are into Ted Cruz — and they’re the ones who will have votes in Cleveland.

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The 2,472 delegates have nearly unlimited authority to rewrite the convention rules, and if most of the them really wanted to see Ryan or Kasich nominated, they could probably find a way to do it. Or, if the voting was a stalemate between Trump and Cruz for many ballots, a true dark horse — maybe someone far more obscure than Ryan or Kasich — could emerge as a compromise. We can’t rule out these outcomes.

But we’re also learning more and more about who those delegates are now that they’re being chosen. They’re not members of the Washington “establishment.” Instead, they’re mostly grass-roots activists, and many of them want Cruz to be their next president.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; natesilver; trump
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1 posted on 04/06/2016 10:03:42 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme

Aaaannnnnd, 8 years of Hillary.


2 posted on 04/06/2016 10:04:34 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Ted Cruz polls great with young females, or is it he likes young females on a pole....I get confused)
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To: justlittleoleme

Nate Silver. Love him or hate him. But this is a man with a proven track record. His bona fides are solid.


3 posted on 04/06/2016 10:04:54 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: justlittleoleme

Is there anyone in the country more hated than Ryan?


4 posted on 04/06/2016 10:06:05 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nate Silver. Love him or hate him. But this is a man with a proven track record. His bona fides are solid.


LOL. Silver says fairy tale match up polls are hot garbage. You going to take his advice on that also?


5 posted on 04/06/2016 10:06:19 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: justlittleoleme

“They’re not members of the Washington “establishment.” Instead, they’re mostly grass-roots activists, and many of them want Cruz to be their next president.”

Whoopsi!


6 posted on 04/06/2016 10:06:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Hitlary comes to mind.


7 posted on 04/06/2016 10:07:25 AM PDT by Slyfox (Donald Trump's First Principle is the Art of the Deal)
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To: justlittleoleme

Been saying this all along. The “GOP-E” does not have all the power some imagine. You won’t be able to get a majority of those delegates to nominate anyone other than Trump or Cruz.


8 posted on 04/06/2016 10:07:31 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Nate Silver. Love him or hate him. But this is a man with a proven track record. His bona fides are solid.”

uhhh, not so much.

NATE SILVER: Here’s who’s favored to win the Iowa caucuses (Odds of winning: Trump 54%-Cruz 33%)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3391537/posts


9 posted on 04/06/2016 10:07:35 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: justlittleoleme

WE are getting JEB

not Ryan, not Cruz


10 posted on 04/06/2016 10:08:09 AM PDT by arl295
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To: justlittleoleme

Silver is dumber than I thought.

TED. CRUZ. WILL. NEVER. WIN. THE. NOMINATION.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 10:08:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: justlittleoleme

Weird to pick less popular Cruz over Trump. But no matter what games the party plays, Cruz has no chance against Hillary. Rightly or wrongly, to regular people he comes across as a hard right/evangelical candidate. His silliness in the pulpit, the laying on of hands, the armor of god comments,,, all of that will make him a fringe candidate for most people.


12 posted on 04/06/2016 10:08:43 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: DesertRhino

“His silliness in the pulpit, the laying on of hands, the armor of god comments,,, all of that will make him a fringe candidate for most people.”

Notice how the media hasn’t attacked any of this. Notice how they don’t attack Cruz at all. (NE is the exception.)


13 posted on 04/06/2016 10:10:32 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: arl295

Right.....

Consider this... If you where a delegate and you strongly supported Trump, is there any power in heaven or on earth that could convince you to vote for JEB?

Well most of the delegates are most likely Cruz people... Don’t see anything convincing any of them to vote for JEB.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 10:10:41 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: arl295

McCain is tanned, rested and ready!


15 posted on 04/06/2016 10:11:03 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: proust

Are you for real? You are going back to a FEBRUARY 1, 2016 poll?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha haha ha ha ha

I daresay those results would have been dead on IF Trump had not shot himself in the foot. Then reloaded. Then shot himself in the other foot with his idiot flip-flop last week on abortion.


16 posted on 04/06/2016 10:12:16 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: justlittleoleme

Not really sure if it matters to the Republicans...either way they keep their closed party closed. They aren’t really concerned with beating Hillary, the game goes on and the trough is still the trough if any of the status quo wins.

And the added benefit is if they put Cruz up and he gets shellacked, they never have to give him the time of day again. Ever. All wins for the closed two party system of ruling the people.


17 posted on 04/06/2016 10:13:40 AM PDT by Border Terrier
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To: justlittleoleme

Cruz thinks most of the delegates are cruz people, they are not, they are establishment people

big difference


18 posted on 04/06/2016 10:13:41 AM PDT by arl295
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To: Responsibility2nd

Silver’s reliability record in primaries are all over the place. He gives weight for endorsements. Believe you me Scott Walker’s endorsement of Cruz will not help him outside Wisconsin.


19 posted on 04/06/2016 10:14:26 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Responsibility2nd

February is too far back for you? Huh? You made a silly claim about his track record. There it is. Nate’s powers of prediction are overrated.


20 posted on 04/06/2016 10:14:33 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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