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To: vladimir998

There is no such thing as freely-chosen vassalage; one gets duped into it. Never mind “freer” (which they’re not) when the goal was to be free in the full sense of the word, which Ireland was between 1948 and 1972 and then threw it away, just like with the Treaty of Lisbon re-vote (they had to vote again because the EU elites determined they had voted the wrong way).

Never mind your equivocation. The EU has caused many in Ireland to be homeless of late, never mind jobless; as soon as the EU gets the military it has been craving for decades, the deaths will follow. And any deaths that England committed in Ireland were not unprovoked; go study the history.

And no, the USA came to Russia’s aid in WWII, because a Russia controlled by the Nazis thanks to Stalin’s own Faustian pact with Adolf (resulting in being caught off guard) would have been an incredible geopolitical disaster. Not the same as the Fenians collaborating with communists at all.

Got any more excusings of statism?


39 posted on 04/03/2016 5:44:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“There is no such thing as freely-chosen vassalage”

You’re wrong again. The very medieval idea of vassalage is built on choice. That’s why the vassalage ceremony is an exchange between Lord and Vassal. I realized you were using the word in your own way, but if you’re going to make an erroneous claim, I’m going to point it out. You might want to read Susan Reynolds’ 1994 book called Fiefs and Vassals (Oxford University Press) because you apparently know even less about that topic than you do about modern Ireland or the EU.

“And no, the USA came to Russia’s aid in WWII, because a Russia controlled by the Nazis thanks to Stalin’s own Faustian pact with Adolf (resulting in being caught off guard) would have been an incredible geopolitical disaster.”

How does what you just said change anything that I said??? You said “then I want to know why a Faustian pact was made with communists at the IRB when there is not supposed to be fellowship between light and darkness.” We sided with godless, murderous communists to defeat murderous fascists in WWII. It was a necessary thing to do. We sided with the empire building colonizing French to defeat the empire building colonizing British in the Revolutionary War. And we would do all of that all over again - and much more - if we really felt the need.

“Not the same as the Fenians collaborating with communists at all.”

Actually, it’s EXACTLY the same. The Irish were willing to side with anyone who could help them. So were we. The United States, in her short history, has sided with the French, the English, the Germans, the Austro-Hungarians, the Russians, Spanish Francists (many would call them fascists), communists, dictators of every stripe, monarchs, business interests, etc. whenever we believed it suited our needs.

“Got any more excusings of statism?”

I never made any. Care to lie about anything else? Everything I have said is absolutely and irrefutably correct. We made a pact with communists (just like some Irish revolutionaries did) - and we chose to ignore what those commies were doing to their own people because we were interested in winning a war against the Nazis. Pull your head out of your ass if you can find it.

And here you really show your ignorance:

“And any deaths that England committed in Ireland were not unprovoked;”

Not according to the King of England, George V, who angrily asked the Prime Minister if he was going to shoot all of the people of Ireland. I guess you would also say that “And any deaths that England committed in [America] were not unprovoked”? And there is no justification for this: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/culprit-who-led-burning-of-cork-finally-identified-139188.html

“go study the history.”

Did. Got a PhD in it. That’s why you’re the only one between the two of us making any mistakes here. You’ll continue to do so too.


40 posted on 04/03/2016 7:00:16 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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