Posted on 04/03/2016 6:31:03 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
Would some Cruz people please tell me, and be specific with EV counts, what states would Ted Cruz win that Mitt Romney did NOT win in 2012, and get to a total of at least 270 EV's?
No drugs. I pay attention.
The Trump supporters here are warning the establishment of a meltdown if they don’t get their way.
But you’re not listening to the response and its out there:
“You’ve had your tantrum. Frankly, we don’t give a damn.”
Trump will not be the nominee. They think whatever damage that might caused is already built in. If a crack up’s coming, then at least they’re going to get their #nevertrump way.
Whether they have enough oomph to get past both Trump and Cruz remains to be seen, but they aren’t #nevercruzing.
How someone did in primaries is not an indicator of how someone woll do in the general election.
Other than this comment I choose not to participate in this BS Trumpoid jackassery.
Especially since the MSM will focus on the NE revelations once Trump is "safely" out of the way.
Ted finished 3rd in the three biggies FL, OH and VA.
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A primary vote is vastly different than a General vote. Are you saying those that voted for someone
other than Cruz in the primaries won’t vote for him as the GOP nominee in the general?
First things first: Ted Cruz doesn't have a path to 1237. That's fact. Mathematically, Cruz is already out of it. If Cruz or his supporters think he's going to secure the nomination without getting to 1237 they're simply delusional. No other way to state that FACT.
Second, the ONLY candidate who DOES IN FACT have a path to 1237 is Donald Trump. If the goal of both Trump and Cruz supporters is to defeat the GOP-E, the only candidate who gets to 1237 delegates to secure the nomination is DONALD TRUMP.
That is also pure, unadulterated FACT.
That means a vote for anyone other than DONALD TRUMP is a vote for the GOP-E hand-picking the candidate as there is no way in hell Ted Cruz is going to get to 1237 or the nomination.
This is also pure, unadulterated FACT. A fact I've now posted at least FIVE TIMES here on FR and not a single Cruz supporter has even TRIED to rebut. NOT ONE. Perhaps you'll be the first?
When Donald Trump walks into the Republican Convention with 1,237 elected delegates and the GOP-E publicly, blatantly tries to/robs him of the nomination you and I will witness the complete, total death of the Republican Party. When they hand the Presidential Election to Shrillary Rotten Clinton they will ALL finally be exposed -- INCLUDING TED CRUZ -- for the power hungry tyrants that they are and one or more of the following will finally happen:
(1) Civil revolt. Of which I personally plan to participate in.
(2) The "un-election" of every single Republican in Congress. It may take a few election cycles to get them all out, but it'll happen.
(3) The rise of a third party, likely an intensely Nationalistic one. I'm not even going to get into all the implications of this, I'd be typing for days and my carpal tunnel is already aggravating me this morning.
(4) Civil war, complete economic meltdown and a collapse of the global economy. Yep, this is a more 'extreme' prediction but consider this: an unstable America makes for an unstable world. Look at the instability we have now under Obama and what it's doing to the world. Can you imagine the global instability that'd occur with America going through a period even worse than we went through in the 60's and 70's? What if that instability at home were 5x, 10x worse? Again, I could type for DAYS on this one.
So think long and hard about your true motives in pushing for revolt at the Convention in Cleveland this summer. Your guy isn't getting to 1237 and there's no way the GOP-E that you and he aligned yourselves with is ever going to give Cruz the nomination.
Not today. Not tomorrow. Not ever. It was NEVER in the cards. Fact.
Well, for me hell would have to freeze over first before I'd ever vote for that fake, phony, fraud Ted Cruz.
He saddled up with the GOP-E and he's too stupid to see that they'll NEVER hand him the nomination, and "hand" him the nomination is exactly what it'd take for him to walk out of the convention with it.
Not gonna happen. You and he are nothing more than useful idiots of the GOP-E at this point. Wake up.
“Shouldnt this have been asked months ago, when there were more choices in the race?”
I still want to take a Greyhound bus to Wisconsin and smack Scott Walker upside his head for doing do poorly.
“The only women I see hating Trump are here on FR or the sleazy hags in the lying MSM. Women that I personally know in several states are ok with Trump if he protects the border and increases jobs. None of course plan to marry him so that type adoration isnt there.”
Exactly. I hope and believe Trump will bring out countless women he has employed, Ivanka and many other women. So many women I talk to love Trump. The media cites one poll taken during an attempt to destroy Trump. No doubt the Corey episode was pushed by a coalition of Trump haters.
When I have seen Cruz on Television spinning his losses into victories and explaining his tactics for “winning” the primary, I have tried to make excuses for his misleading statements. But it is getting pretty old at this point. If Trump dropped out of the race tomorrow, Kasich would take enough of the remaining “pledged” delegates that Cruz would not be able to reach 1237. Even if Ted does better than expected he will still lose enough delegates in New York on the 19th that it will be mathematically impossible for him to reach 1237. At that point a vote for Cruz will be a vote to let the GOP establishment pick the nominee.
NO one seriously expects that the GOP establishment to pick Cruz as their nominee do they? They are using him as a tool to diminish Trump’s chances right now, but that is as far as they will ever go to supporting him. To think otherwise is bordering on delusional. The recent statements by Carl Rove and others and the recent actions in Tennessee should be enough to convince even the true believers.
After the 19th Cruz will be no more legitimate a candidate than Kasich. They will both be spoilers working to give the establishment the ability to pick the nominee.
Your guy’s not getting to 1237 either. So. Same boat, there.
Many won’t. +80% in each of those states were for anyone other than Cruz. Many of those #nevercruz vote will be exactly that, never Cruz.
I’ve asked many times. Got no answer.
My state of Michigan wont be in play if it’s him. With Trump, it is tipping red.
He will be Bob Dole II as far as I can see. He has about as much enthusiasm...I even dare say less. The press is letting him have a free ride today. In the general, he will be destroyed.
I’ll vote for anyone that has a chance to win in order to keep Hillary out of the Presidential
Office. They may not be my first choice but for damn sure the democrat isn’t my choice in any
situation and I’ll vote to make it harder for them to get elected. My choice and yours may differ.
Now you have a blessed Sunday.
Mathematically, your guy is already out of it. Can't get there.
Trump isn't mathematically out of it. They're most certainly not in the same boat.
Your alignment with the GOP-E is duly noted. Prepare to take cover.
One has but to look at the Trump crowds and see that a large percentage are enthusiastic women!
When you behave as Trump has you could bring out the Blessed Virgin Mary and it wouldn’t solve your woman problem.
“A primary vote is vastly different than a General vote.”
Yeah. Lots more people will vote, and for Hillary.
3rd place = little enthusiasm for you. That is a voting base made of sand in swing states.
Trump would definitely take Florida and would have a very good chance of taking NY, Cruz would have no chance of taking either.
I firmly believe Cruz could bring along Quebec, and probably British Columbia.
Well with luck they won’t have to face that choice.
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