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The killer robot threat: Pentagon examining how enemy nations could empower machines
The Washington Post ^ | March 30th, 2016 | By Dan Lamothe

Posted on 03/30/2016 8:47:57 PM PDT by Mariner

The Pentagon’s No. 2 civilian official said Wednesday that the Defense Department is concerned that adversary nations could empower advanced weapons systems to act on their own, noting that while the United States will not give them the authority to kill autonomously, other countries might.

Deputy Defense Secretary Robert O. Work said the Pentagon hasn’t “fully figured out” the issue of autonomous machines, but continues to examine it. The U.S. military has built a force that relies heavily on the decision-making skills of its troops, but “authoritarian regimes” may find weapons that can act independently more attractive because doing so would consolidate the ability to take action among a handful of leaders, he said.

“We will not delegate lethal authority to a machine to make a decision,” Work said. “The only time we will… delegate a machine authority is in things that go faster than human reaction time, like cyber or electronic warfare.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: robot; robotics; robots; terminator
If we don't utilize the ability to deploy autonomous weapon systems (which we would be, by far, the best at), we'll lose the next major war.

How would such system be essentially different from a cruise missile fired from 1,500 miles away...or an ICBM or SLBM?

1 posted on 03/30/2016 8:47:57 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
"Smile for the camera!"


2 posted on 03/30/2016 8:58:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Islam seems to be ahead of the game.


3 posted on 03/30/2016 8:58:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: UCANSEE2
The systems will more closely resemble cruise missiles, fighter aircraft and small tanks.

Without the need to accommodate humans, the units need no armor and can store FAR more fuel for greater range.

And they're expendable.

The only questions being: How many can you make, and how good are they?

4 posted on 03/30/2016 9:05:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: UCANSEE2

lol


5 posted on 03/30/2016 9:05:57 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Mariner

The ComPost: Know any other good party jokes???


6 posted on 03/30/2016 9:07:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
"Know any other good party jokes???"

Did you even read the article and observe who their sources were?

7 posted on 03/30/2016 9:11:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
“We will not delegate lethal authority to a machine to make a decision,” Work said. “The only time we will… delegate a machine authority is in things that go faster than human reaction time..."

So we won't do it, except when we do...

Been part of the Aegis weapons system for a couple of decades. They have an "auto special" engagement mode that basically turns the computer loose to engage any threat that meets certain criteria - without waiting for us slow humans to ok it. We basically ok'd it with the engagement criteria.

I would guess CIWS probably has some similar engagement mode. Probably the various missile defense systems too.

8 posted on 03/30/2016 9:11:40 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"They have an "auto special" engagement mode that basically turns the computer loose to engage any threat that meets certain criteria - without waiting for us slow humans to ok it. We basically ok'd it with the engagement criteria."

Correct.

In this era, 500ms matters.

A lot.

There are other advantages.

How many TOW missiles (or modern equivalent) can a 4 ton tracked chassis carry when it's made of 1 inch aluminum, and how much fuel would it take to move it 300 miles?

What of a swarm of "suicide cruise missiles" headed toward an enemy battle group at sea from 1,500nm away? Couldn't you put about 1,000 of those on a current Aircraft Carrier?

Think of this: Suicide fighter drones deployed from existing airframes from 1,000 miles away to take out enemy aircraft. All they have to do is make contact at 500mph. An existing Strike Eagle could probably carry a couple of dozen of those.

A B-52 could carry at least 100.

9 posted on 03/30/2016 9:24:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner


10 posted on 03/30/2016 9:35:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mariner
Fragment of suicide fighter drone.

Iranian suicide fighter drone.


11 posted on 03/30/2016 9:43:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mariner

3/26/16: The day Tay became self aware...


12 posted on 03/30/2016 10:13:12 PM PDT by null and void ("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
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To: Mariner
That's what he's basically admitting.

They're gonna do it so maybe we should do it too and then...

Skynet

13 posted on 03/30/2016 10:15:17 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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> and how good are they?

Could they be captured by the enemy and used against us?


14 posted on 03/31/2016 2:33:17 AM PDT by ri4dc (I used to care, but I just take a pill for that now. [I am starting to care once again])
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To: Mariner
If we don't utilize the ability to deploy autonomous weapon systems (which we would be, by far, the best at), we'll lose the next major war.

Here are 3 of them in a pre-production test.



15 posted on 03/31/2016 7:19:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mariner
"They have an "auto special" engagement mode that basically turns the computer loose to engage any threat that meets certain criteria - without waiting for us slow humans to ok it.


16 posted on 03/31/2016 7:21:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: null and void

Good afternoon, gentlemen.

I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H. A. L. lab in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992.

My instructor was Mr, Langley. He taught me to sing a song.
If you’d like to hear it, I can sing it for you.”


17 posted on 03/31/2016 7:35:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

My name is Siri. How may I help you?


18 posted on 03/31/2016 7:36:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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