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Desperate GOP establishment turns to Ted Cruz
The Hill ^ | March 23, 2016 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 03/23/2016 7:19:21 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: Iscool
You're a Romney supporter, I see...

I voted for Romney. I actually thought he would be a better choice than Obama. I assume you disagree. It's a free country. Vote for Hillary if Cruz gets the nomination. It's legal.

81 posted on 03/23/2016 8:37:05 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: eyedigress

No one can argue with the music’s got the magic!


82 posted on 03/23/2016 8:38:59 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: jazusamo

Here is a thought. A person has cancer. The doctors comes in and says, “We have a drug that may cure you.”

Do you try the drug or not? Don’t you owe it to your family to try the drug?

Believe it or not, Cruz has supporters (38% to Trump’s 41% See http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/23/fox-news-poll-cruz-gains-on-trump-in-gop-race-clinton-up-by-double.html ). They want him to win the election. Would you try the drug?


83 posted on 03/23/2016 8:39:12 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
If they steal it from Trump , it’s because they want to hand it to Hillary ...we will hit the gas pedal for them and give them what they want ...pass that on to your GOPe buddies ...I will write in Trump

If they want to give this election to Hillary then the GOPe should give the nomination to Trump. I have yet to see a poll where Trump does better against Hillary than Cruz or even Kasich.

You make these sort of really silly childish proclamations as if there was actually some reality behind them. There is none. Write in Trump. Better yet vote for Hillary. That's where your heart is. Anybody but Cruz.

84 posted on 03/23/2016 8:39:57 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Kent C

Well, it was a hypothetical that was never going to happen.

I can bring up these hypothetical’s every day.

What if Obama endorsed O’Malley or Babs endorsed Santorum?

Hell, I don’t know. Live in the real world.


85 posted on 03/23/2016 8:40:20 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Boardwalk

:^)

It’s your one chance for escape.


86 posted on 03/23/2016 8:41:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: InterceptPoint

Don’t worry ...it’s looking like you will get your way ..Hillary it will be ..there is no way I will vindicate Lying Levin , Crazy Beck, and the rest of the GOPe for stealing it from Trump ...never going to happen ..i’ll write Trump in and wait for endless DIM rule ..that’s what you all want after all, isn’t it ?


87 posted on 03/23/2016 8:44:15 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop the GOPe and DIMS ...Defeat Cruz, Levin, Beck, Romney - Vote Trump)
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To: InterceptPoint

A twist to the scenarios is that it is also possible, though not at all likely, that the candidates could go to the convention with Trump not leading in delegates, this rendering moot the idea that the nomination would be “stolen” from him.

One way would be for Cruz to win 65 percent of the remaining delegates, Trump wins the balance, Kasich wins nothing. Cruz ends up with 1072 delegates to Trump’s 1071. Cruz wins on second ballot using now-free Kasich, Rubio and other delegates without “stealing”, since Trump didn’t lead going into the convention.

Another way is for Kasich to start magically winning 67 percent of remaining delegates. Cruz wins 32 percent. Trump wins no more than seven delegates (I did say magic). Result: A three way tie with all three at 763 delegates. Kasich or Cruz get the nomination, again without “stealing” anything.

Of course some GOP fast dealing with the Rubio and other delegates prior to the first ballot would lower somewhat the required level of miracle for Trump’s opponents in these scenarios.


88 posted on 03/23/2016 8:44:41 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: eyedigress

>>Well, it was a hypothetical that was never going to happen. I can bring up these hypothetical’s every day.

You could but some wouldn’t be as plausible and some wouldn’t make the same point. Anyway - perhaps this is the ‘timeline’ that you wanted, since you seemed to have avoided answering when I asked...

“Sessions, who’s got more conservative street cred than just about any member of Congress, can’t make up his mind whether to back Cruz for president or his other pal in the race, Donald Trump. He likes both of them too much to commit.”

That’s part of the “real world” before his decision. I guess you must have missed that....

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/sessions-trump-cruz-218353#ixzz43mxVAzaX

I’ll invoke Mark Twain and leave it at that...


89 posted on 03/23/2016 8:47:36 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: jazusamo

The Utah was cooked by the Pubes, massive ballot box stuffing at the last minute. The FBI should investigate. This isn’t the first time these criminals have fixed a primary.


90 posted on 03/23/2016 8:48:46 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: Kent C

That was an article from 1/29/2016.

He decided and that part of history is over.

I did not avoid anything.


91 posted on 03/23/2016 8:54:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: InterceptPoint

The delegate voting isn’t taking place now, it’ll take place after the war between Trump and Cruz has been played out in the media- or better I should say ‘by’ the media.
There will be hard feelings among their supporters, and damage to both of them. Watch how it plays out.

Yes, Cruz can get support from delegates that Trump can’t (IE:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3408439/posts) .
But it won’t help him if he’s damaged goods.


92 posted on 03/23/2016 8:55:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Dagnabitt

The only real problem with your scenario is that Cruz will be lucky to get 30% of the remaining delegates. Trump will get more than the 1237.

So when Trump shows up at the convention over the mark, and the GOP changes the rules, then the party is over. Literally.


93 posted on 03/23/2016 8:55:22 PM PDT by datura
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To: Kent C
As far as Mark Twain goes, I will use one from your link.


All large political doctrines are rich in difficult problems -- problems that are quite above the average citizen's reach. And that is not strange, since they are also above the reach of the ablest minds in the country; after all the fuss and all the talk, not one of those doctrines has been conclusively proven to be the right one and the best.

94 posted on 03/23/2016 8:57:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Dagnabitt

Of course some GOP fast dealing with the Rubio and other delegates prior to the first ballot would lower somewhat
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Your version of my gut feel that things will not go well for Trump if we have a second and possibly subsequent ballots.

Fast dealing by the GOP seems certain. Like it or not Trump supporters, that dealing is most likely to benefit Cruz, a candidate disliked just slightly less than Trump by the GOP leadership.


95 posted on 03/23/2016 8:59:00 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: WENDLE

Did you sign the Trump petition?:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3412763/posts?page=2


96 posted on 03/23/2016 8:59:05 PM PDT by rurgan (only taxes allowed 5% federal sales tax, 3% state ,2% local. no income, no property tax)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

Yes I’m with you.Did you sign the Trump petition?:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3412763/posts?page=2


97 posted on 03/23/2016 8:59:43 PM PDT by rurgan (only taxes allowed 5% federal sales tax, 3% state ,2% local. no income, no property tax)
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To: Seruzawa

There’s no doubt there was voter fraud in Utah by the Repubs in the caucuses, several FReepers have attested to it who attended them.


98 posted on 03/23/2016 9:01:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo

“Many prominent members of the GOP establishment intensely dislike Cruz. But they now acknowledge that he is the best option — perhaps the only option — to deny Donald Trumptheir party’s nomination.”

What sucks is that they are also FLOODING THIS SITE, claiming to be Cruz supporters, but ALWAYS giving themselves away by spending all their time attacking Trump.

REAL Cruz supporters don’t do that, as they have much more in common with each other than Cruz has with Romney (for example), and that the ONLY THING that Cruz can do, at this point, is force a brokered convention - and assure Romney (or Jeb, Linda, or Ryan) the nomination.


99 posted on 03/23/2016 9:01:36 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Cruz...is now a vote for Romney / Jeb / Linda / Ryan (at the convention))
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To: rurgan

No, but I will ..


100 posted on 03/23/2016 9:03:47 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop the GOPe and DIMS ...Defeat Cruz, Levin, Beck, Romney - Vote Trump)
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