Posted on 03/23/2016 7:51:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
Donald Trump would lead either Ted Cruz or John Kasich in a two-way race, according to the results of a Quinnipiac University national poll released Wednesday. Asked whom they would like to win the GOP nomination, 43 percent of the 652 Republicans surveyed said they wanted Trump to emerge as the party's choice in Cleveland, followed by 29 percent for Cruz and just 16 percent for Kasich, with 9 percent undecided.
So?
You had your big show. Not our problem that master debater Ted couldn’t poke through. Trump seemed to do so just fine.
Any polling about hypothetical November taken today tells you absolutely nothing about what the outcome will be 8 months from now.
I’ve said this a billion times.. A poll is a snapshot at the time its taken, nothing more.
8 months ago Trump was at 18% Jeb was at 15% and no one still in the race was even in double digits... yet here we are today.
If you had polled americans on 9/10/2001 should we send ground troops into the middle east the answer would have been overwhelmingly no.
Citing a poll that shows a particular outcome 8 months from now is virtually meaningless. It can tell you the state of folks minds today, which can be useful in getting a game plan together on how to change them before the real election, but it tells you nothing about how that real election is going to wind up.
Polls today show that Bernie is actually the better general election candidate for the democrats... He does better against Trump and Cruz... but does anyone with actually believe that should Bernie be the nominee for the democrats that they would win?? Anyone?? Yet that’s what the polls say today.
The only worries I have about November is that the GOPe is so busy trying to destroy Trump and so adamant on doing so, that when Trump wins the nomination, which I feel very confident he will do with 1237+ delegates, that they are creating such an uphill battle for him with all their insanity right now, and there will be factions that won’t stop even once he is the nominee that that is the only real risk to Trump not winning in November.
Trump has easily dispatched the field of Republican challengers, and in any other election cycle the party would already be uniting around the front runner and we would be focusing on November... but not this year, because the party does not want to listen to the voters.. because they are tone deaf and are more interested in protecting their own power than they are putting America first.
Trump to win is going to have to take out not only Hillary but the entire GOP machine.... fortunately I do think end of the day, he’s up to the task and will be able to do it, making his ultimate victory that much more impressive.
Outside of a few states where he’s still competitive, Cruz has been steadily dropping in the polls since March 15. You are correct that not all the undecideds will go for Cruz. Undecideds tend to be low information voters. They either will not vote or, if they do vote, will tend to break for the candidate with the most famous name.
If Cruz brought in the ratings like Trump, he would have gotten the free media coverage. It’s not Trump’s fault that Cruz is as charismatic and entertaining as a limp dish rag.
This is a brutal poll for both Trump and Cruz, and for Republicans in general.
What it basically says is prepare for Clinton’s nomination.
If Trump can’t even get a majority of Republicans how in the hell does he get enough independents and Democrats to win the general? Sure he’ll convert a few Dems and bring in a few new voters but he’ll lose tons of independents.
54% “will never vote for Trump”. Devastating number. Tell me how this works in the general.
And don’t give me the “Reagan was 20 points behind Carter at this point in 1979...” argument. Reagan was still relatively unknown on the national stage at this point, with name recognition far below Trump. Trump’s unfavorables are even higher than Shrillary’s.
This is a disaster of the first magnitude for Republicans and Conservatives. Kiss the Supreme Court goodbye for a generation.
The whole poll should be depressing for the top two GOP candidates. The following deserves some serious introspection. The candidates and their supporters ignore it at their political peril:
On which candidate they definitely would not support, 54 percent overall said they would never vote for Trump in November, while 43 percent said the same of Clinton, 33 percent for Cruz, 27 percent for Sanders and 14 percent for Kasich.Trump supporters don't have much to brag about in the poll either.
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For Trump, the results are even more absymal. The top word: "scared," with 117 separate mentions, followed by "disaster," "frightened," "terrified," horrified" and "disgusted." The first positive word for Trump, "good," was only the sixth-most frequent word mentioned by registered voters.
But Trump has hit a ceiling! Oh wait....
thanks for the reply. good one.
we NEED, in my opinion, a HUGE turnout among white men and married white women conservatives to win.
Romney won men by 8 points. whites men have to move up to 75/25 from 60/40.
Romney lost women by 12. and more women voted. HAVE to combat that somehow
not being racist, just saying what I think we need.
we get 15 or 20 percent of blacks, we’re doing great.
friggin rappers who support him keep backing down under pressure. I thought those hood boys were so tough.
50 Cent is a conservative. well, at least a republican lol. Loved bush.
They are going to get Bush in there by hook or by crook. If they team up both trump and Cruz supporters will sit it out and chalk it up a loss for team America which is on her way out anyway. I’d be happy to officially divide the country.
Trump is a scumbag. No decent guy ever brags about bedding married women. That’s only one reason why I have concluded that Trump supporters have been willing to sell their principles to support him. His record of donations to assorted Marxists throughout America is another big one.
Victory without moral underpinnings will soon turn to ash.
Both parties are far more fractured than I’ve ever seen in my lifetime (I’m 59.) From my study of history, I know that such fracturing strongly correlates with economic downturns and wars—especially civil wars.
“While the Texas senator drew slim advantages among tea party supporters, white, born-again evangelicals and those describing themselves as very conservative, Trump drew far greater support from voters who described themselves as somewhat conservative, moderate or liberal, as well as among men, women and those 45 years and older.”
“And dont give me the Reagan was 20 points behind Carter at this point in 1979... argument.”
Because it’s inconvenient.
“Reagan was still relatively unknown on the national stage at this point”
And that’s when you prove how utterly ignorant you are of history.
Ted Cruz, aka The Black Knight
Black like Shaun King?
If we wind up with a contested convention, then I agree completely... contested conventions historically end up going to some dark horse that wasn’t even in the running on the first vote....
If the convention is contested, historically speaking, odds are strong Trump, Cruz nor Kasich will be the nominee... if I had to venture a guess, I’d say we wind up with Jeb after many many rounds of voting.
Haha!
Perhaps. But it is fairly well understood that polling was a much less advanced science in 1980. There were no other public pollsters to compare and form averages, so it would be difficult to reveal faults in the methodologies of an individual pollster.
Additionally Gallup did not pose the favorable/unfavorable question back then. Do you think Reagan would have shown unfavorables north of 50% as Trump does?
I heard him today about calling Trump a coward for insinuating that he has something the wife. Instead of Cruz saying, I abhor, distance, disagree with the Pak that posted the photos of Melania, he said, I don’t know what Pak did this, and that they’re not affiliated with me.
Then he dives in with the misrepresentations of Trump’s position on Israel, Nato and the rest.
The guy is friggin big time loser. No way he will ever be president.
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