Posted on 03/23/2016 7:51:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
Donald Trump would lead either Ted Cruz or John Kasich in a two-way race, according to the results of a Quinnipiac University national poll released Wednesday. Asked whom they would like to win the GOP nomination, 43 percent of the 652 Republicans surveyed said they wanted Trump to emerge as the party's choice in Cleveland, followed by 29 percent for Cruz and just 16 percent for Kasich, with 9 percent undecided.
I just despised that term when it was applied to Bush but goddamn if Beck doesn't check every box on the Dry Drunk Diagnosis Form.
It didn’t fit Bush at all. Beck — totally.
You wrote you were not making an argument. Since you are making an argument for electability by poll, then you have John Kasich who should be awarded the nomination if Donald Trump is blocked by RomneyCruz. Kasich polls much better against Clinton or Sanders. You have a good argument for Kasich.
RE: You wrote you were not making an argument.
I was asking a question. How is that an argument?
RE: Since you are making an argument for electability by poll,
Nope, I am asking about electability in the general because the thread IS about a poll.
RE:then you have John Kasich who should be awarded the nomination if Donald Trump is blocked by RomneyCruz.
Making an observation does not necessarily mean that either:
1) The polls today will be the polls tomorrow.
2) The polls today will NOT be the polls tomorrow.
I am simply asking a question. That’s all there is to it.
re: Kasich polls much better against Clinton or Sanders. You have a good argument for Kasich.
Let’s modify that — the polls show Kasich winning against Hillary NOW. That’s all. It says nothing about the future.
The question I ask is still relevant -— How will Trump do one on one against Hillary?
See post 18
No “undecided” broke for Cruz last night in Arizona. He was stomped from the minute the vote came in till it was all counted.
“Cruz has now embraced the very Cartel he once railed against.
He is working with The Cheap Labor Express to prevent the citizens from electing a President who would stop the illegal alien inundation.”
If Cruz was elected it would be even worse. The establishment donor class and cheap labor express would have him inside out, beholden and begging for their handouts and crumbs, just as does a large sector of our population on the left. These might be crumbs to the donor class, but Cruz would see them as generous bailouts and bribes. It is sad average USA politicians have turned into beggars by the needs for money in politics. It really needs changed.
RE: If you are asking a question and have no point (argument) to make then your question is irrelevant.
If someone can answer the question with GOOD REASONS, then the question is not irrelevant.
RE: Do you have a point to make ?
No, I have a question to ask and I am waiting for an answer. I can present how other people are answering my question, but I am asking the same question here to see if there’s another perspective.
RE: Currently Trump is the only Republican candidate who can attract the blue collar voters of the Northeast and Midwest, the Reagan Democrats, in significant enough numbers to put traditional Democrat states in play. Otherwise you are replaying 2012.
Yes, this is the argument I keep reading from those who support Trump. However, the other side of the story is this -— his FAVORABILITY ratings.
Trump whether one supports him or not, is more unpopular than Clinton, with a net favorability (those who view him favorably minus those who don’t) of -28, worse than Clinton’s -17. This is not just from one poll, but is consistently shown by VARIOUS polls.
But let’s set that aside, too, since those numbers will/could/may change.
The question is if Republicans who did not support Trump in the primaries will vote for Trump if he wins the nomination. And Quinnipiac’s poll suggests (if you can believe the poll) — Maybe not.
Almost three times as many Republicans say they’d never vote for Trump than Democrats say the same about Clinton (if she takes the nomination from Sanders).
What’s more, more than half of independents say they’d never vote for Trump compared to fewer than half who say that about Clinton. These figures, too, can/will/may change, but it suggests that the idea that Trump has opposition to his candidacy as deeply rooted as the support he’s enjoyed in the primaries isn’t far off-base.
So, it remains to be seen if the Reagan Democrats are numerous enough to offset the factors that go against Trump.
Those are NOT my arguments by the way. Those are arguments I hear from people who try to look at things clinically.
RE: He could still lose, especially if stabbed in the back by professional conservatives who make their living off conservatism
Well, it remains to be seen if conservatives ( those who do not make their money off conservatism like me ) will vote for Trump. I can’t speak for others. For me, I am an ABC voter — Anybody But Clinton. I won’t vote for Trump because I like him, I will vote AGAINST Hillary.
How many conservatives think like me, I cannot tell.
Has any candidate defeated Trump in cumulative votes or delegates ?
On which candidate they definitely would not support, 54 percent overall said they would never vote for Trump in November, while 43 percent said the same of Clinton, 33 percent for Cruz...
Asked which words they would use to describe their feelings toward a Clinton or Trump presidency...
For Trump, the results are even more absymal. The top word: "scared," with 117 separate mentions, followed by "disaster," "frightened," "terrified," horrified" and "disgusted." The first positive word for Trump, "good," was only the sixth-most frequent word mentioned by registered voters.
A brand new Monmouth University Poll finds that both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton maintain their substantial leads in national voter preferences for their respective parties nominations. When you go inside the numbers on the Republican side Trump remains the clear leader of the pack.
A majority of all Republican voters 54% say that the party should get behind Trump as the nominee if he has the most delegates but not enough for a first round ballot victory. Meanwhile, 34% would like to see the convention nominate someone else in this case.
http://www.newstalkflorida.com/poll-says-gop-should-support-trump
What does that have to do with my post? I was correcting a poster who said the question had not been asked. It had.
Nonsense ..Ted has had at least 10 debate opportunities to crush Trump ..Cruz failed every time ...Cruz is a GOPe phony ..deal with it
This Trump supporter says this poll is crap.
RE: Has any candidate defeated Trump in cumulative votes or delegates ?
Not among Republicans. But my question is not about thw GOP, it’s about head to head against Hillary.
How so? The poll surveyed a hypothetical Trump vs. Cruz match-up, which Trump would win by 9 points, and a Trump vs. Kasich contest, which Trump would win in a blowout. Can we assume you only looked at the regular three-person poll and didn't bother to look at the results for the head-to-head contests?
In polling, Kasich is your man.
In votes, Trump is the only Republican even close to her in 2016.
Overall vote
Republicans 20,375,925
Democrats 15,070,178
By candidate
Clinton 8,668,136
Trump 7,548,429
Sanders 6,131,951
Cruz 5,484,494
Rubio 3,394,134
Kasich 2,725,327
Carson 677,307
Bush 249,894
O'Malley 94,692
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