....just another brick in the Establishment wall...
Posted on 03/22/2016 10:43:27 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.
Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.
Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.
Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).
We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.
...Then came the Presidential Ballot.
Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".
No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.
I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.
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We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.
I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.
About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.
I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".
As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.
I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.
I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.
His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.
Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.
No, I didn't vote again...
I went back to my precinct and they had the results: 74% Cruz 14% Trump 11% Kasich
Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.
As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)
Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.
There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.
UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM
And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.
Outrageous. However, Cruz was predicted to win.
Wow, total “public dumba$$” alert!
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule
Let them know.
Funny how Mormon values don’t seem to be much different than “New York values”.
....just another brick in the Establishment wall...
All the losers are endorsing lyin Ted. Trump wins all the states where people actually wait in lines to cast an actual vote. Ted just wins closed caucuses where people can be manipulated. He and Romney are real good at that. Without nasty ads and slimy robo calls, Cruz got nothin’.
Lyin’ Ted is pure Establishment and gets more despicable with each passing day.
He has joined Comrade obamatollah & HELLry as voices I immediately turn off and avoid hearing.
Slime all around on this one - he seems happy enough to leverage it despite the slime tactics - I'm starting to regret the money I sent him over a 6-month period before switching to trump as my first choice.
You’re right. We need to nominate someone who’s as big a cheat as Hillary is. That’s why we need Ted Cruz! The only way to beat aDemocrat is to become a Deomcrat. Just like Desperate Ted!
Seriously—Cruz has gotten whipped in most of the Republican primaries. What makes you think he’d do so much enter against Hillary in the fall?
Ground game? It’s an ‘open tin can ballot stuffing ground game’. And much easier to cheat than Maine. Cruz has done amazingly well in these Caucus states.
Ted Cruz is a dirty player. Trump’s petty little insults against his rivals pale in comparison to the almost 200 million spent on the dirty, sleazy, lying, low ball smear campaign run by the entire republican party. I was excited to cast my first vote in Florida since retiring here last year. If they screw trump, I will be just as excited to NOT cast my vote in the general election.
Not a lot of these fraud inviting caucuses left, lots of primaries coming up though :)
Yes, Kansas WAS disorganized! I too wonder about results. I’ve only met 2 people who voted Cruz, and I saw a few there with cruz buttons on, but I seriously doubt he won by the margins they say he won by.
Ted Cruz is a porn distributor that provides porn to children.
Since Teds Pac sent out nude photos of Trumps wife out willy nilly everywhere in Utah where underage teenage boys and younger could have seen them isnt that providing porn to children?I have some new slogans for Rafael Cruz.
perverTED
disgusTED
revolTED
distrusTED
No ID check, ballots handed out in stacks and cast in tin cans? This is 2016, not 1916 right?— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) March 23, 2016
NauseaTED.
I hope the fraud is proven and Cruz and Romney will be finished.
Without Trump, it would have been Jebbie from the start for sure.
So I read that the Utah GOP got thousands of calls because it totally screwed up the online voting (59,000 registered for it) and people didn’t get their pin number to vote, and if they had registered for online they couldn’t vote in person. What happened to all those people/votes??
Well, it’s Utah - multiple wives, multiple votes. What do we expect?
Anyway, this is inexcusable and loathsome action. Until WE get control of the local levels of the party, it won’t change.
Change will happen only when WE control the great majority of the locals. That means taking it on another extracurricular activity in our lives. Like watching and reading sports.
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