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The long and winding road: A one-time activist reflects on his journey out of the gay lifestyle
Mercatornet ^ | 3/22/16 | James Parker

Posted on 03/22/2016 6:59:07 AM PDT by wagglebee

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Even more challenging than accepting as a teenager that I was gay, I began to see that perhaps I had never truly been gay and that there was a man hidden deep within me as real and as noble as the men I had often admired, worshipped and yearned for, a man who was waiting to be freed and released.

He brilliantly describes how nobody is "born" a homosexual, they CHOOSE to be that way.

1 posted on 03/22/2016 6:59:07 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/22/2016 7:00:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/22/2016 7:07:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: wagglebee

Only a handful of comments at the site but one, inevitably, is from an angry gay made even angrier by the authenticity and detail of the writer’s story.

While the gays and the left (possibly redundant) preach ‘live and let live’ it’s obvious that anyone willing and able to leave the hive becomes a target of irrational anger.

It’s probably because one individual’s success is the exception that smashes the rule to flinders ie there is no ‘born gay,’ there is no gay gene, there is no unchangeable condition. And without this so-called permanent basis, there is no pretext for legal protections, special status, etc.


4 posted on 03/22/2016 7:08:47 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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To: wagglebee

[He brilliantly describes how nobody is “born” a homosexual, they CHOOSE to be that way.]

My friend’s son left the gay lifestyle. He told her, “Satan tried to steal my manhood.”


5 posted on 03/22/2016 7:13:17 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: relictele

the author’s account is consistent both with my observations and speculations, as well as conversations I have had over the years. I think this is spot on, and likely, close to being a universal story of “gay” men, at least in the west.


6 posted on 03/22/2016 7:17:21 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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The encouragement and promotion of ‘gender fluidity’ is child abuse. I do believe there are those who are ‘born gay’ but it is a very small percentage of those who identify as gay. There was a boy in my son’s preschool long ago, that I know is not a functioning heterosexual.....it does happen. If there were truth in the gay community, the percentage of gay men who were sexually abused as children would probably show as more than 90%. What a sad society we have become when feelings trump science at every turn. But that seems to be the norm when Leftists have the control. (and yes, feelings trump science in ‘climate change’, too. MOST scientists don’t believe we have any impact on ‘climate change’.....it is just the yin and yang of weather. But they are ostracized if they speak out)


7 posted on 03/22/2016 7:19:49 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: wagglebee

A positive story with a happy ending.

Is being same-sex attracted a choice? It seems to simplify it a bit much. It appears to be more an internal hunger of the heart.


8 posted on 03/22/2016 7:20:02 AM PDT by lurk
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Credit also is due to his wife for trusting him after his past.


9 posted on 03/22/2016 7:21:26 AM PDT by posterchild
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I don’t read a complete “choice” in that — I read early childhood trauma, a defense mechanism set - up probably before the child was fully cognitive, and things going on at the deepest levels that took a lot of work to discover and more time to modify.

Somewhat like the “choice” an alcoholic makes, it is unwitting and often not self-discovered, but then if an alternative presents itself, remaining actively drinking has the true test of choice to it; conscious decision making to continue.

I’ve heard stories like this. I have also heard stories from people that sincerely tried to flip the switch and it not work out anywhere near the same for them. By and large, I am not in the “immutable characteristic” camp, but at the same time, wiring that is put together in a faulty manner at an age to young for the person getting their wiring poorly arranged does not meet the “choice” criteria for me.

Ultimately, the psychiatrists removing same sex attraction from the list of mental disorders may have committed a huge disservice to 2% of the population.


10 posted on 03/22/2016 7:37:45 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Is it still too soon to start shooting? [No social transformation without representation])
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Excellent article. He’s very brave.


11 posted on 03/22/2016 7:51:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

That is my belief as well. There is no gay gene.


12 posted on 03/22/2016 8:21:36 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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our fight was not merely to have the concept of abnormal accepted but was rather to make normal taboo and to place it under ideological suspicion.

And that is the core of my aversion to the homosexual lobby. THEY -- the abnormal, the fringe, the outliers -- demand to be allowed to define "normal," rather than simply accepting that they are NOT normal and living their lives anyway.

I will never let some pervert tell me that his sickness is okay while my heterosexuality is not. The majority defines the norm, not the exceptions.

13 posted on 03/22/2016 8:26:10 AM PDT by IronJack
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I note that gender fluidity (as a political bludgeon at least) seems to be largely absent from impoverished nations where each day involves a struggle to reach the next day.

It’s a symptom/disease of affluence.


14 posted on 03/22/2016 8:31:45 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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IT’S A TRAP!


15 posted on 03/22/2016 9:41:07 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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I note that gender fluidity (as a political bludgeon at least) seems to be largely absent from impoverished nations where each day involves a struggle to reach the next day.

Excellent observation.

It’s a symptom/disease of affluence.

The entire Marxist movement has been spread from (relatively) affluent educators to their affluent students.

16 posted on 03/22/2016 9:41:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: relictele

I think that is likely true.

It does, however, raise the question as to the nature of this perversion in primitive societies. Certainly it existed in ancient Israel. But it does sort of seem like a different psychology as compared to today. The deviant act has always existed, I think. But perhaps in any given era, the root of it is somewhat varied?


17 posted on 03/22/2016 9:43:56 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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wiring that is put together in a faulty manner at an age to young for the person getting their wiring poorly arranged does not meet the “choice” criteria for me.”

REally, I think so much compassion is warranted in these circumstances. The idea of having one’s manhood being taken away, essentially, is really heartbreaking. The metaphor of “wiring” is also very apt. There is no question that early trauma (again, a circumstance where compassion is warranted) in fact changes brain chemistry and physiology. Very tragic stuff.

I also would note that the hatred of women (which I have personally heard articulated by many gay men) has the effect of re-wiring the brain in awful ways.

there’s just nothing good about this whole situation.

To get out of it, it seems clear that a holistic response is the only thing that will work: Christian spirituality, counseling, perhaps some meds. But that approach is currently illegal, b/c at least on the psychiatric side, homosexuality is a celebrated and protected class. Very, very tragic.


18 posted on 03/22/2016 9:49:01 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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bump for later


19 posted on 03/22/2016 1:38:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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I agree with both your posts. This person has taken the courageous journey to recover from early childhood trauma. I can’t take a black&white view of “choice” in this matter. Bless him for sharing his story, and may it help other people struggling with these issues, and, as CD pointed out, finding that therapy is not only hard to find, it’s outright illegal in many places due to marxist brainwashing.


20 posted on 03/22/2016 3:56:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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