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Levin: Populism is Progressivism, Which is Statism (audio: 12:41)
Conservative Review ^ | March 17, 2016 | Mark Levin

Posted on 03/18/2016 3:17:40 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: ProgressingAmerica

I know the historical argument.

I have not used progressive or populist in my post

Please don’t bother me again

Levin and you are annoying


161 posted on 03/18/2016 11:03:27 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Veracious Poet

You have proved that you know nothing about Mark Levin.


162 posted on 03/19/2016 6:22:47 AM PDT by texhenry (Cruz is the only conservative in the race)
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To: texhenry
Just what I thought, you were blowin' hot air...

Have fun with your snake oil salesman and his pet candidate ;-)


163 posted on 03/19/2016 9:35:24 AM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: Veracious Poet

If its clips you want jusy google it or raed some of his books.


164 posted on 03/19/2016 10:03:10 AM PDT by texhenry (Cruz is the only conservative in the race)
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To: Will88

“Levin is trying define things to suit his personal, political agenda in 2016.”

+1

“Populism could also be political movement where the common, working stiffs rebel “

That’s what it was when William Jennings Bryan was the great populist hope back in 1896 and 1900. Populist Democrats vs Progressive Republicans. Enough to make Levin and Beck’s heads explode.

Western farmers thought that they were getting screwed by the railroads that they depended on to get their crops to market. And a wide section of working people believed that the were getting squeezed by the tight money policy of the time as the US abandoned silver and returned to gold standard that Lincoln had broken.


165 posted on 03/19/2016 11:14:48 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I agree.


166 posted on 03/19/2016 11:17:08 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“If Trump were by some strange twist of fate, the GOP nominee, would you assail or welcome the support of the GOPe? “

I would welcome the GOPe meeting Trump on the deck of the USS Missouri and signing terms of surrender.


167 posted on 03/19/2016 11:31:30 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Jim Robinson

+1


168 posted on 03/19/2016 11:32:49 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: plymaniac

well said


169 posted on 03/19/2016 11:34:58 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Will88; Neu Pragmatist

“Yep, he’s expressed his belief in free markets, free trade, no tariffs,”

Which is highly amusing coming from Lincoln fan Mark. He’s espousing the Confederacy’s trade policy.

Someone needs to ask him if the Morrill Tariff was a bad idea and which Party had it as part of their platform...


170 posted on 03/19/2016 11:39:29 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Veracious Poet; texhenry

Yeah, and he’s not exactly a “great scholar”. He’s on a par with most amateurs with an interest in the Constitutional era. Which isn’t a bad thing, it just means he’s not remotely a Forrest McDonald.


171 posted on 03/19/2016 11:45:29 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Pelham
If Trump were by some strange twist of fate, the GOP nominee, would you assail or welcome the support of the GOPe?

I would welcome the GOPe meeting Trump on the deck of the USS Missouri and signing terms of UNCONDITIONAL surrender.

FIFY

172 posted on 03/19/2016 12:49:17 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: Pelham
I dunno, I heard that you have to had "raed some of his books" to really understand how advanced his Constitutional lurenin' is!


173 posted on 03/19/2016 12:58:09 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Trump (or somebody on his behalf) had quite a few ad buys before the Iowa caucuses. I liked the one his daughter did the best.


174 posted on 03/19/2016 4:05:58 PM PDT by Aliska ("No bank is too big to fail, and no executive is too powerful to jail." HRC 1/24/16)
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To: Will88

Excellent post and great points ..


175 posted on 03/19/2016 8:14:15 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop the GOPe and DIMS ...Defeat Cruz , Vote Trump)
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To: EveningStar; arl295; tatown; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Georgia Girl 2; Will88; ripnbang; ...

Mark Levin Unwittingly Helped Trump [arthur march vanity]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3411438/posts

Who is more statist? Trump or Cruz?

Mark Levin attempted to paint Trump as a ‘statist’.*

‘Statist’ means ‘big government’ and ‘centralized power’.

So let’s compare Trump and Cruz.

First there are two points in Cruz’ favor:

Cruz is opposed to Big Ethanol and wants to completely defund Family Planning. Small differences fiscally speaking, but those are two examples of Trump being a ‘statist’. [Two for Levin.]

Health care is a wash. Trump and Cruz are both anti-statist on that issue because they both seek to de-centralize.

Now for important differences:

Point 1: Twenty five percent of federal employees would quit under the Trump presidency.* Trump is notorious as a cost-cutter. Is that statist? It’s a stab at the very heart of Levin’s point.

Point 2: Leftist rent-a-mobs are statist. Cruz blamed Trump for his anti-statist attitude about these brown shirts.

One reason democrats seem more popular than they do is because they have followed the Nazi maxim to ‘conquer the streets’. These goons even conquer public rallies.

This is the most dangerous aspect of statist power and might be the worst political error Cruz has ever made.

Point 3: Senator Cruz did much more than simply vote for Chief Justice Roberts. He pushed for him. On the flip side, Trump’s top two judicial considerations are anything but statist. Cruz is actually closer to being a statist regarding judicial nominees, and that is supposed to be his greatest strength!

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Why Mark Levin is in Error

Levin equates populism with progressivism and statism.

But the dominant element of Trump’s populism has nothing to do with big ethanol or family planning.

Here are the driving forces behind Trump’s populism:

Point 1: Trump promises to waterboard. [Cruz ducks that particular issue.]

Point 2: Trump’s trade policy. [Cruz opposes.]

Point 3: Trump’s muslim ban. [Cruz opposes.]

Point 4: Most definitive of all is Trump’s enthusiasm for a border wall. Cruz agrees, but he failed to be as confrontational with Mexico, thus his enthusiasm was less intense.

What do all four of those differences have in common?

Patriotism.

That’s why Trump is referred to as a ‘nationalist’.

Patriotic populism is not ‘progressivism’.

~~~

I still admire Mark Levin.

His Liberty Amendments movement which is downright revolutionary. He’s the Madison of this century. And Trump is also revolutionary in his patriotic courage.

I hope that Levin will one day appreciate what is being achieved.


176 posted on 03/20/2016 7:18:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Jim Robinson; Veracious Poet

Jim,

Can you clarify this? “veraciouspoet” — someone who has just become active on FR over the past few days — seems to be interpreting what you’ve written as a command to *only* support Donald Trump and to not express support for any other candidate (e.g., Cruz):

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:veraciouspoet/index?brevity=full

He has been tattling on people who simply express support for Cruz. Indeed, he’s been nothing but rude to those who simply express support for Cruz.

I understand your request to be civil, to not demean Donald Trump. That is good. He is our leading candidate.

But do you mean that FReepers shouldn’t express support for Ted Cruz at all, shouldn’t defend his record and explain why they think he’d make for a good president?

I sincerely am not being argumentative. Just wanting clarification. I’ve been a good member of FR for 18 years. I want to understand the guidelines so that I can continue being a good FR member.

Thanks, Jim.


177 posted on 03/20/2016 3:17:44 PM PDT by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution.)
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To: Theo; Jim Robinson
I understand your request to be civil, to not demean Donald Trump.

Psss...your Tagline is smearing Trump from here to 1789...

177 posted on 3/20/2016, 3:17:44 PM by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution.)


178 posted on 03/20/2016 7:02:14 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: Theo; Veracious Poet

Veracious Poet ... why resort to rules? Just expose the accuser.

Personally, I would like the tagline to remain as a testament to Theo’s intellectual firepower.

Let’s consider what the French Revolution was.

France’s first successful anti-establishment movement.

It went beyond that though. It was anti-aristocracy.

And to compare Trump with that is laughable.

Trump is a benevolent aristocrat. He’s rich, the kind of guy they would have put on the chopping block.


179 posted on 03/21/2016 5:18:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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