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To: House Atreides; carjic
Yet another blog rant telling us that conservatism itself doesn't matter. Principle doesn't matter. All that matters is belief in The Ultimate Leader. At one time -- it seems long ago now, but in reality it was only a few weeks -- we were being told that The Ultimate Leader really was a conservative, that despite his past, he'd undergone a profound, Reaganite conversion over the last few years.

Now we're being told that Reagan is yesterday, that conservatism is passe because The Ultimate Leader has simply said too many things in the course of this campaign that make it very clear he isn't a conservative at all. So none of us should be conservatives any longer, either. We should simply trust in The Ultimate Leader. So this pathetic screed concludes.

Nope. Not going there. The whole rest of Free Republic can drink up as far as I'm concerned, but I stand for something. And it isn't what some man believes today, or the new thing he believes tomorrow.

50 posted on 03/13/2016 8:45:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Fifth Avenue to be Born?)
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To: FredZarguna

I think you missed the point of the article. Leaving aside the criticism of Teds judgement....

Cruz is no Reagan.

He could have been, but he simply doesn’t connect with voters.


59 posted on 03/13/2016 8:53:20 PM PDT by digger48
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To: FredZarguna

Most of FR but not all. I still am and will always be conservative. These people all remind me of Obamabots. Nothing has to make sense. They can rationalize anything away.


60 posted on 03/13/2016 8:53:34 PM PDT by carjic (Media and GOPe are making the only people I trust not electable)
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To: FredZarguna

From the article: “Had Cruz realized that conservatism is not a clearly articulated set of principles that must be imposed on a recalcitrant mass, but is instead the systematized expression of the yearning of individuals and peoples, as flawed and imperfect as they are, he might have been born aloft by the wave that is now carrying Donald Trump to the White House. Instead, blinded by ideology and self-regard, Cruz missed the wave, and is being left behind.”

I think that Trump is drawing on the anger, resentment and the need for revenge by so many. And that is fine, but is a danger if the ideology of conservatism is tossed out. Then it becomes mob rule. I found a fancy term for that -

“Ochlocracy”.

Some of it sure sounds like a Trump rally, and what is happening at Free Republic:

Following are excerpts from:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-ochlocracy.htm

Classical theories of ochlocracy suggest that the individual minds of people form a united way of thinking, but that the crowd forms the people instead of the people forming the crowds. Each member of the group is fueled by the others, and they feed off the emotions of others, increasing their own. The result is a mob that acts completely as one with growing enthusiasm, and each individual loses touch with their original thoughts and intentions….

Protests and rallies are modern day examples of ochlocracy. In these instances, groups of people unite to either show support or show objection. When the emotional levels of these crowds gets out of hand, mob mentality becomes evident, particularly when uprisings and rioting occurs.

Peer pressure [Free Republic?] can also be categorized as a form of ochlocracy. In the same manner as protests and rallies, groups of people in the same age group, social class, or religion can group together for a specific purpose. Mob rule in some form can be seen just as much today as it was centuries ago.


64 posted on 03/13/2016 8:56:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: FredZarguna

You stand for something alright!

Hope you get what you deserve.


66 posted on 03/13/2016 8:57:14 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: FredZarguna

FR is a Trumpkin cesspool.


68 posted on 03/13/2016 8:57:50 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: FredZarguna
I just read the article, and it never said anything like what you just said.

He never said that conservatism doesn't matter, principle doesn't matter, or that Reagan doesn't matter.

Either you're not reading, or you're still pissed off that a certain candidate just blew his chances sky high by not blaming the totalitarian left for its violent extremism.

Just let it go, the article is actually pretty good if you try to understand what it said. Here's a money quote for you:

Rush was cor­rect — con­ser­vatism, prop­erly artic­u­lated, will win every time. But con­ser­vatism is more than a set of bul­let points. It is ulti­mately a form of trust, in peo­ple, and that, if left alone, they can man­age to get things right. Trump may not have all of the bul­let points in line, but the trust is there. Trust is the ulti­mate gift — if a can­di­date shows that he trusts the peo­ple, the peo­ple will trust him in return.

73 posted on 03/13/2016 9:00:18 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: FredZarguna

If that is what you took for the article, then you were not reading it with the mindset of a true American Constitutional conservative.


78 posted on 03/13/2016 9:02:00 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: FredZarguna

You stand for something alright!

Hope you get what you deserve.


79 posted on 03/13/2016 9:02:32 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: FredZarguna

BINGO!


104 posted on 03/13/2016 9:17:16 PM PDT by X-spurt
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To: FredZarguna

Fred... You have clarified the whole matter and I stand with you!!!


152 posted on 03/13/2016 10:24:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Hey, lets leap to support someone rich and strong enough who will DO SOMETHING, (even if its wrong))
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To: FredZarguna

Have difficulty reading, huh? If “conservatism” is merely “principles” that ver affect change, it is dead. Paul wrote “the Law kills but the Spirit gives life.” Cruz epitomizes the “conservative law” that ignores the spirit of the people that give it life.


197 posted on 03/14/2016 3:53:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: FredZarguna
Well stated.

To see Trump supporters accusing Cruz of narcissism, when Trump is the one who has to put his own name in huge letters on everything he owns... yeah, there's a lot of denial going on all right, but not by Cruz supporters.

212 posted on 03/14/2016 9:47:06 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Check your premises.)
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