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Sen. Durbin calls Abbott Labs' IT layoffs 'harsh and insensitive’
Computer World ^ | February 29, 2016 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 03/07/2016 6:04:07 AM PST by C19fan

Abbott Labs, a global healthcare company, is laying off about 180 IT employees after signing an agreement with Wipro, a major India-based IT services firm, to take over some IT services. The employees were told about the planned cuts on Feb. 22; their last day will be April 22.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abbottlabs; corporatewelfare; h1b; immigration; offshoring; stem; trump
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

——But a 60 day notice to find new employment is rather considerate on the part of the employer.——

Actually it is the law for layoffs of more than the number in the law. It is a union law to allow employees to sabotage their work before leaving


41 posted on 03/07/2016 8:20:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
42 posted on 03/07/2016 8:30:21 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: DoodleDawg
Bull. It's due to the fact that outsourcing IT functions overseas looks good on a corporation's bottom line.

This is NOT a case of outsourcing overseas. Indians are flown in on H-1B visas and work in the USA, they are inshore replacements. Try to follow along.

43 posted on 03/07/2016 8:31:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Personal Responsibility
bringing in the best and brightest from around the world will grow our national talent pool)

H1B doesn't do that: they get a temporary work visa as long as they are sponsored by their employer.

It's indentured servitude, and the only reason it exists is to lower costs-- they have to be trained by the American workers before they can work.

It's a wage busting scam and always has been.

44 posted on 03/07/2016 8:32:12 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: fooman

I am not a union person but STEM workers need to organize. Sorry to say it but it is true. That can’t happen until H-1B visas are killed or curtailed.


45 posted on 03/07/2016 8:32:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Read Write Repeat
we have two Republican Senators running for President who gleefully clap over this news.

False. From https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/:

Amend the H-1B visa program to fulfill its original purpose: Work with Congress to pass reform legislation for the H-1B visa program that will:

"Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions Roll Out Antidote To Broken H-1B Program: American Jobs First Act" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371276/posts

"Ted Cruz Explains why His Position on H-1B Visas Has Changed" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3376485/posts

46 posted on 03/07/2016 8:32:54 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Right. It looks good on their bottom lines because the tax structure and trade deals make it look good.

No it looks good on their bottom line because IT costs go down and headcount goes down. No IT employees then no benefits to pay and no U.S. salary structure to worry about. Trump could pass his tax plan and this will still happen. And it has nothing to do with trade deals. This is offshoring the work; it's been going on for upwards of 20 years, if not longer.

47 posted on 03/07/2016 8:33:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Seattle Conservative
Well, they push people with STEM credentials like crazy.

Whether they are any good is another question.

Another issue is cultural-- a lot of Indian IT workers are very rigid and hard to work with.

48 posted on 03/07/2016 8:34:23 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: C19fan
Durbin is going to be the number 2 under Senate Majority Leader Chuck E. Schumer if we don't get our act together....and quickly.

Just saying.

49 posted on 03/07/2016 8:34:23 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

BY definition if you have to train someone then they are not the best and the brightest. It has been explained a thousand times with thousands of examples yet some dimwits can’t seem to fathom that this is actually a wage suppression scheme created by our government in cohoots with international corporations. Only a dimwit goes along with the lie. You are are dimwit.


50 posted on 03/07/2016 8:37:13 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yes, but in the sense of a guild.

Not in the sense of rampant ‘work rules’ to make people lazy.

80 hour weeks are De-rigour in my mentality.


51 posted on 03/07/2016 8:38:07 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: SoothingDave

No this is outsourcing but the work stays here. H-1b visa holders are flying in and REPLACING Americans. Get it?


52 posted on 03/07/2016 8:38:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz came round.

Trump started strong and is now ‘changing’

I hope Trump is not changing into Zuckerberg.


53 posted on 03/07/2016 8:39:44 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: DoodleDawg
No it looks good on their bottom line because IT costs go down and headcount goes down

Head count stays the same. Ram replaces Roger, get it?

54 posted on 03/07/2016 8:41:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: pierrem15

They say ‘ok ok’, then filibuster for months.

Senior management does not even have the acumen to ask the right questions.

Then they call in the US stem workers to fix it.


55 posted on 03/07/2016 8:41:20 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman; central_va
Not in the sense of rampant ‘work rules’ to make people lazy.

80 hour weeks are De-rigour in my mentality.

Are you saying you think 80 hour weeks are an acceptable norm?

56 posted on 03/07/2016 8:43:32 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Read Write Repeat
Even with offshoring, how do you create a tariff for lines of code?

All internet traffic routed through the IRS, of course!

57 posted on 03/07/2016 8:43:50 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: central_va
Head count stays the same. Ram replaces Roger, get it?

Headcount goes down. Roger gets the axe and is not replaced. That nice Indian company Wipro, the one that Ram works for, gets the contract for providing the IT services. Offshoring and outsourcing IT functions have always been about cost reductions and not efficiencies or improved service.

58 posted on 03/07/2016 8:48:37 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: ConservingFreedom

It has always been like that in start ups and elite organizations I have been around.

There is just simply a high fixed cost to be a good software engineer or doctor.

Looking at some youtube videos and setting up eclipse for Java just does not cut it.

There is often a vast business domain that has to be learned as well.

The yabba dabba do crowd will have a more limited set of roles to choose from.


59 posted on 03/07/2016 8:48:53 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: C19fan

Ted Cruz wants 325,000 MORE H-1B foreign tech workers visas while claiming unemployed Americans need to just suck it up.


60 posted on 03/07/2016 8:51:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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