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To: DoughtyOne
If you haven't seen for yourself the contradictions Trump makes in his statements, it certainly won't do any good for me to point some of them out. I'll note a couple of critical ones, for my own good.

He wants to deport all illegal aliens, but he wants to "EXPEDITE the legalization of the 'good' ones". I call that amnesty.

He wants to repeal Obamacare, but he 'likes' the insurance mandate. He doesn't want to have people 'dying in the streets' by giving them government single payer medical care.

He wants to punish business for producing off shore, except of course for his own clothing lines since 'you can't make clothing in the US any more'.

He wants free trade, except for a 45% import duty on China and others (who will immediately reciprocate, killing US exports - and don't reply with the line "we don't export anymore. We are the third largest exporting country in the world. It was export duties and their reciprocation by other countries that turned a bad recession into the Great Depression)

etc., etc., etc.

100 posted on 03/07/2016 6:28:36 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: norwaypinesavage

You are very ill-informed. He hates the “individual mandate” in 0bunghole care. His recently posted position paper about health cares very specifically says that NO ONE will have to buy insurance IF THEY DON’T WANT TO.

I don’t have time to copy his whole paper here but I’m sure it has been.

He has NOT said to expedite the “good” illegals, either. They have to go through the same process.

Why not try reading his position papers? All spelled out nice and clear.


109 posted on 03/07/2016 6:38:58 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: norwaypinesavage

He wants to punish business for producing off shore, except of course for his own clothing lines since ‘you can’t make clothing in the US any more’.


Since manufacturing has vacated the US you don’t think it’s difficult to find factories that will produce? DH needed really good work boots for fire and logging work - tried two over 150 bucks, used to be made in the US, no more of course - lasted a couple years - the only ones made in the US cost upward of $400 - had to get them.

If the factories are gone, they’re GONE.


111 posted on 03/07/2016 6:41:40 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: norwaypinesavage
He wants to deport all illegal aliens, but he wants to "EXPEDITE the legalization of the 'good' ones". I call that amnesty.

He has said that the people that are here in America whom it would be in America's interest to have return will be able to apply to return legally but that it could take years and will not be a guaranteed citizenship track.

He wants to repeal Obamacare, but he 'likes' the insurance mandate. He doesn't want to have people 'dying in the streets' by giving them government single payer medical care.

His choice of the word mandate is unfortunate. He has clearly and repeatedly stated that the vast majority of American would be on free market health care plans and HSAs would be encouraged. The mandate part is the charity care that America is already committed to, Medicaid etc. That care he has addressed saying that no one should be dying in the street but that we need to improve our bidding and delivery system so that the indigent care is better, delivered cheaper & more efficiently. He has also outlined a significant improvement in Veteran's care.

He wants to punish business for producing off shore, except of course for his own clothing lines since 'you can't make clothing in the US any more'.

He doesn't have offshore clothing manufacturing. He has licensed the use of his name for some labels as many celebrities, sports figures etc do. He is consistently committed to bringing back our manufacturing base.

He wants free trade, except for a 45% import duty on China and others (who will immediately reciprocate, killing US exports - and don't reply with the line "we don't export anymore. We are the third largest exporting country in the world. It was export duties and their reciprocation by other countries that turned a bad recession into the Great Depression)

We are a net importing country by a vast margin and it is killing our economy. To negotiate any deal including trade deals it is important to have a negotiating stance and rattle your sabre. Americans have forgotten how to negotiate and are clueless about the need to "posture and leave the table."

Our trade partners are laughing all the way to the bank at how they are screwing us. Fair trade where America is working on a level field is in America's interest and the position Trump has commited to achieve.

U.S.-China Trade Facts U.S. goods and private services trade with China totaled $579 billion in 2012 (latest data available). Exports totaled $141 billion; Imports totaled $439 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with China was $298 billion in 2012. China is currently our 2nd largest goods trading partner with $562 billion in total (two ways) goods trade during 2013. Goods exports totaled $122 billion; Goods imports totaled $440 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with China was $318 billion in 2013.

134 posted on 03/07/2016 7:19:05 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: norwaypinesavage

Nonsense...

Believe what you want to believe. I’m not wasting more time on folks like you.

Not trying to be nasty about it, but after addressing these things hundreds of times, I’m just fine with you accepting all the negatives you can dream up.


175 posted on 03/07/2016 11:28:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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